Off-topic Talk Where overpaid, underworked S2000 owners waste the worst part of their days before the drive home. This forum is for general chit chat and discussions not covered by the other off-topic forums.

20/20 vision - please explain

Thread Tools
 
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:16 AM
  #1  
Scot's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 17,288
Likes: 39
From: Nashville
Default 20/20 vision - please explain

I understand the 20 feet at 20 feet thing, but how can someone be 20/20 for "near" vision?

My son just go checked and they listed his near vision at 20/20...... is that just to make it easier on people to understand? It clearly isn't 20 feet since that is the far sight test.

i tried to quickly look it up but couldn't find the answer.

thanks
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:07 AM
  #2  
clawhammer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 25,683
Likes: 1
From: Houston, Texas
Default

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_acuity

From what I understand, it's just a ratio, so it doesn't have to be 20 feet away.

I'm sure that S2020 will chime in with the right answer.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:39 AM
  #3  
The Gasman's Avatar
Former Moderator
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 59,195
Likes: 1
From: Ventura, California, USA
Default

Yeah, ask s2020, he's an ophthalmologist.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:05 AM
  #4  
Scot's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 17,288
Likes: 39
From: Nashville
Default

i figured he would just see this..... that way we all know the answer.... just in case anyone else would like to know....
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:10 AM
  #5  
jamesk's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,065
Likes: 1
Default

Hey guys, I'm an ophthalmic tech so I thought I'd chime in.

The most commonly used format for recording VA's (visual acuities) is in Snellen notation, whether it be for distance or near testing. Snellen notation is recorded as 20/X, where 20 means test distance, and X is the line of acuity the patient can read. Lets say you read off the 20/200 line. A person with emmetropic vision (20/20) could see the 20/200 line at 200 feet, versus your 20 feet.

On to your question.. Near point acuities are also written in Snellen notation (20/X), and are done with a card that has to be held a certain distance from the eye (usually 14 inches). No matter what the testing distance, the vision will still be recorded as 20/X, since it is the most conventional way to see va's recorded.

Why do we record it as 20/20 even though its not at 20 feet?--just because its easier for us to comprehend and thats the way we've done it for years.

You can translate 14/y to 20/x mathematically if you wanna do it the hard way, but its conveniently printed on the card in Snellen notation.

Good job to your son for reading off the small line! Young eyes can accomodate so easily, now when you hit 40, it can be challenging.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:53 AM
  #6  
NFRs2000NYC's Avatar
Former Moderator
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,852
Likes: 1
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by jamesk,Nov 20 2006, 10:10 AM
Hey guys, I'm an ophthalmic tech so I thought I'd chime in.

The most commonly used format for recording VA's (visual acuities) is in Snellen notation, whether it be for distance or near testing. Snellen notation is recorded as 20/X, where 20 means test distance, and X is the line of acuity the patient can read. Lets say you read off the 20/200 line. A person with emmetropic vision (20/20) could see the 20/200 line at 200 feet, versus your 20 feet.

On to your question.. Near point acuities are also written in Snellen notation (20/X), and are done with a card that has to be held a certain distance from the eye (usually 14 inches). No matter what the testing distance, the vision will still be recorded as 20/X, since it is the most conventional way to see va's recorded.

Why do we record it as 20/20 even though its not at 20 feet?--just because its easier for us to comprehend and thats the way we've done it for years.

You can translate 14/y to 20/x mathematically if you wanna do it the hard way, but its conveniently printed on the card in Snellen notation.

Good job to your son for reading off the small line! Young eyes can accomodate so easily, now when you hit 40, it can be challenging.
Learn something new everyday.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:51 AM
  #7  
Scot's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 17,288
Likes: 39
From: Nashville
Default

Originally Posted by jamesk,Nov 20 2006, 10:10 AM
Hey guys, I'm an ophthalmic tech so I thought I'd chime in.

The most commonly used format for recording VA's (visual acuities) is in Snellen notation, whether it be for distance or near testing. Snellen notation is recorded as 20/X, where 20 means test distance, and X is the line of acuity the patient can read. Lets say you read off the 20/200 line. A person with emmetropic vision (20/20) could see the 20/200 line at 200 feet, versus your 20 feet.

On to your question.. Near point acuities are also written in Snellen notation (20/X), and are done with a card that has to be held a certain distance from the eye (usually 14 inches). No matter what the testing distance, the vision will still be recorded as 20/X, since it is the most conventional way to see va's recorded.

Why do we record it as 20/20 even though its not at 20 feet?--just because its easier for us to comprehend and thats the way we've done it for years.

You can translate 14/y to 20/x mathematically if you wanna do it the hard way, but its conveniently printed on the card in Snellen notation.

Good job to your son for reading off the small line! Young eyes can accomodate so easily, now when you hit 40, it can be challenging.
thanks..... when my wife was reading off the numbers i was ready to argue with her about the 20.20 thing...hahah... luckily I didn't...... I would have lost fo' sho'
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:16 AM
  #8  
S2020's Avatar
Member (Premium)
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 112,963
Likes: 150
From: Doh!!
Default

Originally Posted by jamesk,Nov 20 2006, 07:10 AM
Hey guys, I'm an ophthalmic tech so I thought I'd chime in.

The most commonly used format for recording VA's (visual acuities) is in Snellen notation, whether it be for distance or near testing. Snellen notation is recorded as 20/X, where 20 means test distance, and X is the line of acuity the patient can read. Lets say you read off the 20/200 line. A person with emmetropic vision (20/20) could see the 20/200 line at 200 feet, versus your 20 feet.

On to your question.. Near point acuities are also written in Snellen notation (20/X), and are done with a card that has to be held a certain distance from the eye (usually 14 inches). No matter what the testing distance, the vision will still be recorded as 20/X, since it is the most conventional way to see va's recorded.

Why do we record it as 20/20 even though its not at 20 feet?--just because its easier for us to comprehend and thats the way we've done it for years.

You can translate 14/y to 20/x mathematically if you wanna do it the hard way, but its conveniently printed on the card in Snellen notation.

Good job to your son for reading off the small line! Young eyes can accomodate so easily, now when you hit 40, it can be challenging.
yeah, what he says.
I still note a person's vision to be at 20/xx with a near card but there's also a Jaeger or point notation.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:29 PM
  #9  
Daniel L's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,451
Likes: 1
From: LA, CA - Durham, NC
Default

While we're on this near vision thing, my Dr. says that it's difficult for eyes to adjust to contacts for up close vision. Have you guys found this to be true? I can read up close stuff better without my contacts than with them on.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
konstantinos2000
Γενικά Θέματα εκτός S2000
5
Feb 28, 2009 07:59 AM
esoteric
The Corner
2
Apr 18, 2006 06:31 PM
ASMspec
Off-topic Talk
12
Dec 29, 2004 06:24 AM
The Unabageler
The Corner
0
Dec 21, 2002 09:02 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:31 PM.