is adhd real? or does it only exist
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Originally Posted by cthree,Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
Keep your hands off my speed bitch. It's the only thing that gets me through the day.
<-- 2 pots of coffee and 15mg of Adderall XR first thing. Breakfast of champions.
I'm confused by your first post. You think you have it but you are already taking adderall?
I'd recommend the generic non-XR version known as "mixed amphetamine salts" instead. I don't know what your co-pay is but the cost of the generic is about $5/month, probably less than your co-pay, compared to $300+ for the patented XR. It also allows you to better control your dosing. I found that I don't need to take it in the afternoon. Once my motor is running I can manage without the second afternoon dose. In Canada for some stupid reason I can only get the expensive XR one.
I also recommend you get a prescription for 10mg of Ambien. That shit will knock you down and keep you down all night. Again for some stupid reason I can't get Ambien or Lunestra or any of that class of nonbenzodiazepine so I just don't sleep anymore. Ambien is freaking magic sauce. You'll be out in less than 10 minutes and stay out until morning and wake without any hangover. Just make sure you take it close to bed because that shit is like a time bomb and you may not make it and find yourself waking up in the hallway. Don't make the mistake of taking it when you get up by mistake. If you do, you are screwed. Keep it in a separate place from your adderall.
If you are anything like me you don't sleep much and you can't concentrate on anything long enough to make any headway leading to a whole host of life problems and depression. You want to do stuff and you get all revved up and you're hot to go for about 10 seconds and then you end of staring at the wall or sharpening pencils.
Question? Do you find it easier to fall asleep after drinking coffee or taking adderall mid-morning or at night when you are physically tired or even bored?
I've been taking adderall for about 5 years. If I don't take it I get really bitchy and angry. Not sure if that's withdrawal or a symptom of the disorder. I got it following a very personally traumatic event I never really recovered from. I became so messed up for a long time I went through a ton of anxiety and antidepressants, even antipsychotics and mood stabilizers until I finally found a shrink who said maybe you've got ADD and prescribed by adderall. Bang! I was fixed. I could finally do things I wanted to and accomplish tasks I could muster the energy for before.
Is it real? I don't know but the treatment for it fixed whatever I had. It doesn't much matter. I've got control of my life back and that's all that matters.
PS.
and 
don't mix with ADD. Getting high or drinking will make your ADD worse (temporarily). Stick to all stimulants or at least know what to expect from depressants.
<-- 2 pots of coffee and 15mg of Adderall XR first thing. Breakfast of champions.
I'm confused by your first post. You think you have it but you are already taking adderall?
I'd recommend the generic non-XR version known as "mixed amphetamine salts" instead. I don't know what your co-pay is but the cost of the generic is about $5/month, probably less than your co-pay, compared to $300+ for the patented XR. It also allows you to better control your dosing. I found that I don't need to take it in the afternoon. Once my motor is running I can manage without the second afternoon dose. In Canada for some stupid reason I can only get the expensive XR one.
I also recommend you get a prescription for 10mg of Ambien. That shit will knock you down and keep you down all night. Again for some stupid reason I can't get Ambien or Lunestra or any of that class of nonbenzodiazepine so I just don't sleep anymore. Ambien is freaking magic sauce. You'll be out in less than 10 minutes and stay out until morning and wake without any hangover. Just make sure you take it close to bed because that shit is like a time bomb and you may not make it and find yourself waking up in the hallway. Don't make the mistake of taking it when you get up by mistake. If you do, you are screwed. Keep it in a separate place from your adderall.
If you are anything like me you don't sleep much and you can't concentrate on anything long enough to make any headway leading to a whole host of life problems and depression. You want to do stuff and you get all revved up and you're hot to go for about 10 seconds and then you end of staring at the wall or sharpening pencils.
Question? Do you find it easier to fall asleep after drinking coffee or taking adderall mid-morning or at night when you are physically tired or even bored?
I've been taking adderall for about 5 years. If I don't take it I get really bitchy and angry. Not sure if that's withdrawal or a symptom of the disorder. I got it following a very personally traumatic event I never really recovered from. I became so messed up for a long time I went through a ton of anxiety and antidepressants, even antipsychotics and mood stabilizers until I finally found a shrink who said maybe you've got ADD and prescribed by adderall. Bang! I was fixed. I could finally do things I wanted to and accomplish tasks I could muster the energy for before.
Is it real? I don't know but the treatment for it fixed whatever I had. It doesn't much matter. I've got control of my life back and that's all that matters.
PS.
and don't mix with ADD. Getting high or drinking will make your ADD worse (temporarily). Stick to all stimulants or at least know what to expect from depressants.weird thing is, it even helped me play better bball at the gym, i was hitting jumpshots let and right. all this was accomplished on very little food intake as well. i only had a salad and 2 porklets for dinner and some oatmeal for breakfast.
ambien doesnt really do it for me. i tried it once on a flight to asia because i always have trouble sleeping on planes. I popped 2 and was still awake...probably cuz i was flying coach... weird thing about ambien is, i was getting weird hallucinations, so i stopped with that.
I try to take my pill in hte morning at around 10am, so i can have a productive day and i am usually up till 1 am.
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Originally Posted by cthree,Feb 19 2009, 12:01 AM
I also recommend you get a prescription for 10mg of Ambien. That shit will knock you down and keep you down all night. Again for some stupid reason I can't get Ambien or Lunestra or any of that class of nonbenzodiazepine so I just don't sleep anymore. Ambien is freaking magic sauce. You'll be out in less than 10 minutes and stay out until morning and wake without any hangover. Just make sure you take it close to bed because that shit is like a time bomb and you may not make it and find yourself waking up in the hallway.
I ended up with a mild, non-habit forming sleeping pill (Pamelor) that helped me sleep a lot easier, was cheaper, and had virtually no side effects.
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I had a friend who was always just a bit hyper and a bit of a flake. Hell, we nicknamed him "Turbo" (which he hated) just because he was all over the place. Back during the college days, I was hit boss for a while when we were selling our souls to the devil (a.k.a. working retail). He was a good worker, you just had to give him very specific tasks to do or else he'd start running around the store doing random things.
Shortly after college, he was diagnosed by his doctor with having Adult ADHD. He began taking medication for it. At first, he mellowed out, he stated acting a bit more calm and was less scatterbrained. However, that only lasted less than a year.
At this point I was living together with the guy as a roommate. He had just gone through a bad breakup and was literally going crazy. His doctor upped the dosage of whatever he was on. He became entirely dependent on taking it. He ran low on it one day and was in a panic because he needed another prescription and his doctor was unavailable. He was telling me how he "needed" his meds and how he "couldn't live without them" and "needed them just to function". It was rather scary to me to hear someone so addicted to something like that.
He is even more hyper and scatterbrained than ever before. He is worse now than when he started taking the stuff. I moved out when I couldn't take it anymore. He has been taking some continuing education classes, and he has not been doing well in them simply because he can't (or won't) focus on getting the work done. He constantly talks about having to up his dosage of the medication he is on. It has made him an absolute wreck, and I do not hang out with the guy any longer.
Do I think there is such a thing as ADHD? Maybe. However, I do not think that medication is the answer, as I have seen it completely destroy the person I once knew and was friends with. I can't stress enough how it is something you shouldn''t just start taking pills for out of the blue.
Shortly after college, he was diagnosed by his doctor with having Adult ADHD. He began taking medication for it. At first, he mellowed out, he stated acting a bit more calm and was less scatterbrained. However, that only lasted less than a year.
At this point I was living together with the guy as a roommate. He had just gone through a bad breakup and was literally going crazy. His doctor upped the dosage of whatever he was on. He became entirely dependent on taking it. He ran low on it one day and was in a panic because he needed another prescription and his doctor was unavailable. He was telling me how he "needed" his meds and how he "couldn't live without them" and "needed them just to function". It was rather scary to me to hear someone so addicted to something like that.
He is even more hyper and scatterbrained than ever before. He is worse now than when he started taking the stuff. I moved out when I couldn't take it anymore. He has been taking some continuing education classes, and he has not been doing well in them simply because he can't (or won't) focus on getting the work done. He constantly talks about having to up his dosage of the medication he is on. It has made him an absolute wreck, and I do not hang out with the guy any longer.
Do I think there is such a thing as ADHD? Maybe. However, I do not think that medication is the answer, as I have seen it completely destroy the person I once knew and was friends with. I can't stress enough how it is something you shouldn''t just start taking pills for out of the blue.
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Originally Posted by Crazy_Schizo,Feb 20 2009, 09:37 AM
I had a friend who was always just a bit hyper and a bit of a flake. Hell, we nicknamed him "Turbo" (which he hated) just because he was all over the place. Back during the college days, I was hit boss for a while when we were selling our souls to the devil (a.k.a. working retail). He was a good worker, you just had to give him very specific tasks to do or else he'd start running around the store doing random things.
Shortly after college, he was diagnosed by his doctor with having Adult ADHD. He began taking medication for it. At first, he mellowed out, he stated acting a bit more calm and was less scatterbrained. However, that only lasted less than a year.
At this point I was living together with the guy as a roommate. He had just gone through a bad breakup and was literally going crazy. His doctor upped the dosage of whatever he was on. He became entirely dependent on taking it. He ran low on it one day and was in a panic because he needed another prescription and his doctor was unavailable. He was telling me how he "needed" his meds and how he "couldn't live without them" and "needed them just to function". It was rather scary to me to hear someone so addicted to something like that.
He is even more hyper and scatterbrained than ever before. He is worse now than when he started taking the stuff. I moved out when I couldn't take it anymore. He has been taking some continuing education classes, and he has not been doing well in them simply because he can't (or won't) focus on getting the work done. He constantly talks about having to up his dosage of the medication he is on. It has made him an absolute wreck, and I do not hang out with the guy any longer.
Do I think there is such a thing as ADHD? Maybe. However, I do not think that medication is the answer, as I have seen it completely destroy the person I once knew and was friends with. I can't stress enough how it is something you shouldn''t just start taking pills for out of the blue.
Shortly after college, he was diagnosed by his doctor with having Adult ADHD. He began taking medication for it. At first, he mellowed out, he stated acting a bit more calm and was less scatterbrained. However, that only lasted less than a year.
At this point I was living together with the guy as a roommate. He had just gone through a bad breakup and was literally going crazy. His doctor upped the dosage of whatever he was on. He became entirely dependent on taking it. He ran low on it one day and was in a panic because he needed another prescription and his doctor was unavailable. He was telling me how he "needed" his meds and how he "couldn't live without them" and "needed them just to function". It was rather scary to me to hear someone so addicted to something like that.
He is even more hyper and scatterbrained than ever before. He is worse now than when he started taking the stuff. I moved out when I couldn't take it anymore. He has been taking some continuing education classes, and he has not been doing well in them simply because he can't (or won't) focus on getting the work done. He constantly talks about having to up his dosage of the medication he is on. It has made him an absolute wreck, and I do not hang out with the guy any longer.
Do I think there is such a thing as ADHD? Maybe. However, I do not think that medication is the answer, as I have seen it completely destroy the person I once knew and was friends with. I can't stress enough how it is something you shouldn''t just start taking pills for out of the blue.
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