Ancient Alien Theory
The typical concept of aliens as we know them today are the big eyes, grey skin and fraile huminoid body. I've seen abduction case studies that show how this image seems to be driven by our subconcious and most likely appears when we are in that state in between asleep and awake, where our bodies feel like they are paralyzed.
Am I off base or were you going in another direction with this question?
The typical concept of aliens as we know them today are the big eyes, grey skin and fraile huminoid body. I've seen abduction case studies that show how this image seems to be driven by our subconcious and most likely appears when we are in that state in between asleep and awake, where our bodies feel like they are paralyzed.
Am I off base or were you going in another direction with this question?
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Well it's probably just a distorted image of ourselves. If you think about it, extraterrestrial life can come in any shape or size. Why does an alien have to be bipedal? Are two eyes necessary? Why four limbs? Why have digits at the end of those limbs? A mouth and nostrils? Is that the extent of your imagination when it comes to extraterrestrials? The creatures from the Aliens movies are more creative....
Consider the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. They could have imagined any characteristics for their gods, but they went with a humanoid being with, in some instances, an osprey head. Why an osprey? Why is their deity's body the same shade as theirs, and not, for example, bright red? Some of them have alligator heads and wolf heads. A reasonable explanation would be that they saw these creatures in their environment, perhaps attributed characteristics (good, bad, malice, love, whatever) and plopped the head of the beast on a human and said "This dude will bring us food because the last time I saw an osprey in the sky we had a week of great harvest"
Consider the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. They could have imagined any characteristics for their gods, but they went with a humanoid being with, in some instances, an osprey head. Why an osprey? Why is their deity's body the same shade as theirs, and not, for example, bright red? Some of them have alligator heads and wolf heads. A reasonable explanation would be that they saw these creatures in their environment, perhaps attributed characteristics (good, bad, malice, love, whatever) and plopped the head of the beast on a human and said "This dude will bring us food because the last time I saw an osprey in the sky we had a week of great harvest"
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If you were a member I'd direct you to the UFO thread where I've logged a couple of events that I've seen in the sky but here's one example...
So a while ago, I thought I had posted a story about something I had seen in the sky. I guess I had posted it in a place which can not be named...
To give you an idea of the view I'm looking at: http://tinyurl.com/468rjl7
Ever since I moved into this house in September I have seen, frequent enough, but not consistantly spaced, odd things going on in this part of the night sky only. The lights "appear" to be ~40-50 miles away, in terms of horizontal ground distance. Perhaps somewhere around the Rio Vista / Sherman Islands / Grizzly Islands area. It's along the a delta of the Sacramento river that extends to the bay, although towards inland. Let me say this about Rio Vista... there's nothing there. A snapshot of the place would make you think you were in bumf@#k texas with the miles of dead grass. The rest of that area is wildlive reserves, marshes, what have you. There's nothing industrialized out there. Notably there's Travis Air Force Base about 15 miles N/NE of me, for those who know about 95% of Travis' air activity are Cargo/Reconaissance; I went to the HS right outside of the base (literally) and I think I've only seen one fighter ever take off there, and I'm pretty sure it was right after 9/11 and it was a practice drill.
So anyway; over the last 7 months or so I've seen 2 different activities, more or less equally, totalling at about ~30-40 incidents. One of them is easily quantifiable, the other is admittedly a little more subjective. They've always been noted from my backporch. Each of these incidents always have 2-3 main light sources (will explain later). I want to say first, I'm not making any assumptions; just descriptions.
1) The quantifiable: These 2-3 objects at rest, look very much like a star; as in... they don't pulse. They kind of 'flicker' like a star does in the sky. However, these aren't stars. They move in every direction (X,Y,Z) in a 'forward pulsing S pattern' almost like a tadpole. As in they shoot 'forward' at an extraordinarily fast pace, start to slow down, stop for a split second, then shoot forward again swiftly. Hopefuly now you can understand the tadpole reference. They move across a fairly large part of the sky (at points, past my peripheral vision if standing sitll), but they go back and forth, up and down, constantly returning to a spot they were already in. They always move rhythmatically, meaning, the 'pulsation' is always the 'same' (or extremely similar), the rate of acceleration at the beginning always seems to be the same and the rate of deceleration at the end of the 'pulse' always seems to be the same; they NEVER change the way they move. Sometimes they will pulse right once, and then go left 5 pulses, then up and down. There doesn't seem to be any purpose or consistancy with the direction they move.
Odd note: There's never helicopters in this sky (or what I'm assuming to be helicopters given the singular red blinking light, and the very small circumfrence of movement) except when I've seen these lights. They're drastically lower in elevation of the lights. Possible coincidence, just odd.
2) The unquantifiable: These 2-3 lights' are different. They're not nearly as bright as the above; infact they're only a slight hue difference from the sky. Where the sky is Black/Dark grey, these lights are a grey/light grey. They don't move nearly as much (infact they stay relatively still) and only seem to move in what appears to be standard linear motion, and pretty slow. However something very odd happens to them sparatically. Now please excuse the faggotry naruto picture, but I'm not sure how else to describe it:

You see the center 'light' and about 6 lines of ~10 small dots will shoot out in a pattern that resembles the black lines, which then circulate the center light for one 'notch' (as if the center was spinning, and each black line was a notch). The lights will then fall back into the pattern they came out (the black line) and collapse back into the center. They wait half a second, shoot out again, rotate, collapse, in this 'notched' pattern. When/If the center lights get closer to each other, you'll see a small light burst (similar in intensity, but not quite) to what I described above in instance 1) go from center dot to center dot. But like I said these lights are so dull, I have no idea if they're particles, my eyes playing tricks on me, the weed, what have you. I've seen it on ~15 different occassions, but other than the patterns I see, it's kind of indistinguishable on the night sky. You really have to look for it.
Odd note: 2/~15 times I saw planes (3?) launch from Travis that were... well they weren't C-series planes. I can't say posivitely for sure they were fighters, but they blurred through the sky; small in nature and extremely fast. Not something you see come out of Travis often, then again I'm not going to pretend like I sit and stare at the sky all day. I did grow up there for 14 years of my life though.
However on Monday I saw something I've never seen before, here's a ghetto drawing before I try and explain:

I was out on my porch about halfway done with a stoge, when suddenly in the middle of the sky this bright light appeared out of nowhere, and started increasing in an angled elevation. It didn't appear to be moving away from me, just up and to the left. Holding my arm out, it's circumfrence was slightly smaller than the circle I can make with my pointer finger and thumb; a circumference of ~2-2.5 inches. It appeared to be at least in intensity, about 20-30 miles out in the horizon. Holding my arm out again, it appeared to be moving at about ~1 inch (with my fingers)/second. Not fast, but steady. At the rate it was appearing to move it should have passed this singular cirrus cloud (thin, wispy, kinda gray, semi-transparent, and the neat thing about these clouds is the way light distributes through them) in sub 2 seconds. Five seconds later, nothing. Ten seconds later, there was a radiant flash behind the cloud, and in the middle of that flash, was a conical light trail that moved perpendicular from me. Meaning... as the flash went off there was a trail that seemed to move away from me, but it's diameter of the cone was larger the farther it moved, and smaller as it was closer to me. I'd also like to note that the appeared acceleration at this point seemed to be roughly ~10-15x faster than when it was moving up/across the sky at first sight.
It was an absolutely bizarre sight.
To give you an idea of the view I'm looking at: http://tinyurl.com/468rjl7
Ever since I moved into this house in September I have seen, frequent enough, but not consistantly spaced, odd things going on in this part of the night sky only. The lights "appear" to be ~40-50 miles away, in terms of horizontal ground distance. Perhaps somewhere around the Rio Vista / Sherman Islands / Grizzly Islands area. It's along the a delta of the Sacramento river that extends to the bay, although towards inland. Let me say this about Rio Vista... there's nothing there. A snapshot of the place would make you think you were in bumf@#k texas with the miles of dead grass. The rest of that area is wildlive reserves, marshes, what have you. There's nothing industrialized out there. Notably there's Travis Air Force Base about 15 miles N/NE of me, for those who know about 95% of Travis' air activity are Cargo/Reconaissance; I went to the HS right outside of the base (literally) and I think I've only seen one fighter ever take off there, and I'm pretty sure it was right after 9/11 and it was a practice drill.
So anyway; over the last 7 months or so I've seen 2 different activities, more or less equally, totalling at about ~30-40 incidents. One of them is easily quantifiable, the other is admittedly a little more subjective. They've always been noted from my backporch. Each of these incidents always have 2-3 main light sources (will explain later). I want to say first, I'm not making any assumptions; just descriptions.
1) The quantifiable: These 2-3 objects at rest, look very much like a star; as in... they don't pulse. They kind of 'flicker' like a star does in the sky. However, these aren't stars. They move in every direction (X,Y,Z) in a 'forward pulsing S pattern' almost like a tadpole. As in they shoot 'forward' at an extraordinarily fast pace, start to slow down, stop for a split second, then shoot forward again swiftly. Hopefuly now you can understand the tadpole reference. They move across a fairly large part of the sky (at points, past my peripheral vision if standing sitll), but they go back and forth, up and down, constantly returning to a spot they were already in. They always move rhythmatically, meaning, the 'pulsation' is always the 'same' (or extremely similar), the rate of acceleration at the beginning always seems to be the same and the rate of deceleration at the end of the 'pulse' always seems to be the same; they NEVER change the way they move. Sometimes they will pulse right once, and then go left 5 pulses, then up and down. There doesn't seem to be any purpose or consistancy with the direction they move.
Odd note: There's never helicopters in this sky (or what I'm assuming to be helicopters given the singular red blinking light, and the very small circumfrence of movement) except when I've seen these lights. They're drastically lower in elevation of the lights. Possible coincidence, just odd.
2) The unquantifiable: These 2-3 lights' are different. They're not nearly as bright as the above; infact they're only a slight hue difference from the sky. Where the sky is Black/Dark grey, these lights are a grey/light grey. They don't move nearly as much (infact they stay relatively still) and only seem to move in what appears to be standard linear motion, and pretty slow. However something very odd happens to them sparatically. Now please excuse the faggotry naruto picture, but I'm not sure how else to describe it:
You see the center 'light' and about 6 lines of ~10 small dots will shoot out in a pattern that resembles the black lines, which then circulate the center light for one 'notch' (as if the center was spinning, and each black line was a notch). The lights will then fall back into the pattern they came out (the black line) and collapse back into the center. They wait half a second, shoot out again, rotate, collapse, in this 'notched' pattern. When/If the center lights get closer to each other, you'll see a small light burst (similar in intensity, but not quite) to what I described above in instance 1) go from center dot to center dot. But like I said these lights are so dull, I have no idea if they're particles, my eyes playing tricks on me, the weed, what have you. I've seen it on ~15 different occassions, but other than the patterns I see, it's kind of indistinguishable on the night sky. You really have to look for it.
Odd note: 2/~15 times I saw planes (3?) launch from Travis that were... well they weren't C-series planes. I can't say posivitely for sure they were fighters, but they blurred through the sky; small in nature and extremely fast. Not something you see come out of Travis often, then again I'm not going to pretend like I sit and stare at the sky all day. I did grow up there for 14 years of my life though.
However on Monday I saw something I've never seen before, here's a ghetto drawing before I try and explain:

I was out on my porch about halfway done with a stoge, when suddenly in the middle of the sky this bright light appeared out of nowhere, and started increasing in an angled elevation. It didn't appear to be moving away from me, just up and to the left. Holding my arm out, it's circumfrence was slightly smaller than the circle I can make with my pointer finger and thumb; a circumference of ~2-2.5 inches. It appeared to be at least in intensity, about 20-30 miles out in the horizon. Holding my arm out again, it appeared to be moving at about ~1 inch (with my fingers)/second. Not fast, but steady. At the rate it was appearing to move it should have passed this singular cirrus cloud (thin, wispy, kinda gray, semi-transparent, and the neat thing about these clouds is the way light distributes through them) in sub 2 seconds. Five seconds later, nothing. Ten seconds later, there was a radiant flash behind the cloud, and in the middle of that flash, was a conical light trail that moved perpendicular from me. Meaning... as the flash went off there was a trail that seemed to move away from me, but it's diameter of the cone was larger the farther it moved, and smaller as it was closer to me. I'd also like to note that the appeared acceleration at this point seemed to be roughly ~10-15x faster than when it was moving up/across the sky at first sight.
It was an absolutely bizarre sight.
Not making any conclusions, just not limiting them either
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Have you ever seen a UFO?
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Have you ever seen a UFO?
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If you were a member I'd direct you to the UFO thread where I've logged a couple of events that I've seen in the sky but here's one example...
So a while ago, I thought I had posted a story about something I had seen in the sky. I guess I had posted it in a place which can not be named...
To give you an idea of the view I'm looking at: http://tinyurl.com/468rjl7
Ever since I moved into this house in September I have seen, frequent enough, but not consistantly spaced, odd things going on in this part of the night sky only. The lights "appear" to be ~40-50 miles away, in terms of horizontal ground distance. Perhaps somewhere around the Rio Vista / Sherman Islands / Grizzly Islands area. It's along the a delta of the Sacramento river that extends to the bay, although towards inland. Let me say this about Rio Vista... there's nothing there. A snapshot of the place would make you think you were in bumf@#k texas with the miles of dead grass. The rest of that area is wildlive reserves, marshes, what have you. There's nothing industrialized out there. Notably there's Travis Air Force Base about 15 miles N/NE of me, for those who know about 95% of Travis' air activity are Cargo/Reconaissance; I went to the HS right outside of the base (literally) and I think I've only seen one fighter ever take off there, and I'm pretty sure it was right after 9/11 and it was a practice drill.
So anyway; over the last 7 months or so I've seen 2 different activities, more or less equally, totalling at about ~30-40 incidents. One of them is easily quantifiable, the other is admittedly a little more subjective. They've always been noted from my backporch. Each of these incidents always have 2-3 main light sources (will explain later). I want to say first, I'm not making any assumptions; just descriptions.
1) The quantifiable: These 2-3 objects at rest, look very much like a star; as in... they don't pulse. They kind of 'flicker' like a star does in the sky. However, these aren't stars. They move in every direction (X,Y,Z) in a 'forward pulsing S pattern' almost like a tadpole. As in they shoot 'forward' at an extraordinarily fast pace, start to slow down, stop for a split second, then shoot forward again swiftly. Hopefuly now you can understand the tadpole reference. They move across a fairly large part of the sky (at points, past my peripheral vision if standing sitll), but they go back and forth, up and down, constantly returning to a spot they were already in. They always move rhythmatically, meaning, the 'pulsation' is always the 'same' (or extremely similar), the rate of acceleration at the beginning always seems to be the same and the rate of deceleration at the end of the 'pulse' always seems to be the same; they NEVER change the way they move. Sometimes they will pulse right once, and then go left 5 pulses, then up and down. There doesn't seem to be any purpose or consistancy with the direction they move.
Odd note: There's never helicopters in this sky (or what I'm assuming to be helicopters given the singular red blinking light, and the very small circumfrence of movement) except when I've seen these lights. They're drastically lower in elevation of the lights. Possible coincidence, just odd.
2) The unquantifiable: These 2-3 lights' are different. They're not nearly as bright as the above; infact they're only a slight hue difference from the sky. Where the sky is Black/Dark grey, these lights are a grey/light grey. They don't move nearly as much (infact they stay relatively still) and only seem to move in what appears to be standard linear motion, and pretty slow. However something very odd happens to them sparatically. Now please excuse the faggotry naruto picture, but I'm not sure how else to describe it:

You see the center 'light' and about 6 lines of ~10 small dots will shoot out in a pattern that resembles the black lines, which then circulate the center light for one 'notch' (as if the center was spinning, and each black line was a notch). The lights will then fall back into the pattern they came out (the black line) and collapse back into the center. They wait half a second, shoot out again, rotate, collapse, in this 'notched' pattern. When/If the center lights get closer to each other, you'll see a small light burst (similar in intensity, but not quite) to what I described above in instance 1) go from center dot to center dot. But like I said these lights are so dull, I have no idea if they're particles, my eyes playing tricks on me, the weed, what have you. I've seen it on ~15 different occassions, but other than the patterns I see, it's kind of indistinguishable on the night sky. You really have to look for it.
Odd note: 2/~15 times I saw planes (3?) launch from Travis that were... well they weren't C-series planes. I can't say posivitely for sure they were fighters, but they blurred through the sky; small in nature and extremely fast. Not something you see come out of Travis often, then again I'm not going to pretend like I sit and stare at the sky all day. I did grow up there for 14 years of my life though.
However on Monday I saw something I've never seen before, here's a ghetto drawing before I try and explain:

I was out on my porch about halfway done with a stoge, when suddenly in the middle of the sky this bright light appeared out of nowhere, and started increasing in an angled elevation. It didn't appear to be moving away from me, just up and to the left. Holding my arm out, it's circumfrence was slightly smaller than the circle I can make with my pointer finger and thumb; a circumference of ~2-2.5 inches. It appeared to be at least in intensity, about 20-30 miles out in the horizon. Holding my arm out again, it appeared to be moving at about ~1 inch (with my fingers)/second. Not fast, but steady. At the rate it was appearing to move it should have passed this singular cirrus cloud (thin, wispy, kinda gray, semi-transparent, and the neat thing about these clouds is the way light distributes through them) in sub 2 seconds. Five seconds later, nothing. Ten seconds later, there was a radiant flash behind the cloud, and in the middle of that flash, was a conical light trail that moved perpendicular from me. Meaning... as the flash went off there was a trail that seemed to move away from me, but it's diameter of the cone was larger the farther it moved, and smaller as it was closer to me. I'd also like to note that the appeared acceleration at this point seemed to be roughly ~10-15x faster than when it was moving up/across the sky at first sight.
It was an absolutely bizarre sight.
To give you an idea of the view I'm looking at: http://tinyurl.com/468rjl7
Ever since I moved into this house in September I have seen, frequent enough, but not consistantly spaced, odd things going on in this part of the night sky only. The lights "appear" to be ~40-50 miles away, in terms of horizontal ground distance. Perhaps somewhere around the Rio Vista / Sherman Islands / Grizzly Islands area. It's along the a delta of the Sacramento river that extends to the bay, although towards inland. Let me say this about Rio Vista... there's nothing there. A snapshot of the place would make you think you were in bumf@#k texas with the miles of dead grass. The rest of that area is wildlive reserves, marshes, what have you. There's nothing industrialized out there. Notably there's Travis Air Force Base about 15 miles N/NE of me, for those who know about 95% of Travis' air activity are Cargo/Reconaissance; I went to the HS right outside of the base (literally) and I think I've only seen one fighter ever take off there, and I'm pretty sure it was right after 9/11 and it was a practice drill.
So anyway; over the last 7 months or so I've seen 2 different activities, more or less equally, totalling at about ~30-40 incidents. One of them is easily quantifiable, the other is admittedly a little more subjective. They've always been noted from my backporch. Each of these incidents always have 2-3 main light sources (will explain later). I want to say first, I'm not making any assumptions; just descriptions.
1) The quantifiable: These 2-3 objects at rest, look very much like a star; as in... they don't pulse. They kind of 'flicker' like a star does in the sky. However, these aren't stars. They move in every direction (X,Y,Z) in a 'forward pulsing S pattern' almost like a tadpole. As in they shoot 'forward' at an extraordinarily fast pace, start to slow down, stop for a split second, then shoot forward again swiftly. Hopefuly now you can understand the tadpole reference. They move across a fairly large part of the sky (at points, past my peripheral vision if standing sitll), but they go back and forth, up and down, constantly returning to a spot they were already in. They always move rhythmatically, meaning, the 'pulsation' is always the 'same' (or extremely similar), the rate of acceleration at the beginning always seems to be the same and the rate of deceleration at the end of the 'pulse' always seems to be the same; they NEVER change the way they move. Sometimes they will pulse right once, and then go left 5 pulses, then up and down. There doesn't seem to be any purpose or consistancy with the direction they move.
Odd note: There's never helicopters in this sky (or what I'm assuming to be helicopters given the singular red blinking light, and the very small circumfrence of movement) except when I've seen these lights. They're drastically lower in elevation of the lights. Possible coincidence, just odd.
2) The unquantifiable: These 2-3 lights' are different. They're not nearly as bright as the above; infact they're only a slight hue difference from the sky. Where the sky is Black/Dark grey, these lights are a grey/light grey. They don't move nearly as much (infact they stay relatively still) and only seem to move in what appears to be standard linear motion, and pretty slow. However something very odd happens to them sparatically. Now please excuse the faggotry naruto picture, but I'm not sure how else to describe it:
You see the center 'light' and about 6 lines of ~10 small dots will shoot out in a pattern that resembles the black lines, which then circulate the center light for one 'notch' (as if the center was spinning, and each black line was a notch). The lights will then fall back into the pattern they came out (the black line) and collapse back into the center. They wait half a second, shoot out again, rotate, collapse, in this 'notched' pattern. When/If the center lights get closer to each other, you'll see a small light burst (similar in intensity, but not quite) to what I described above in instance 1) go from center dot to center dot. But like I said these lights are so dull, I have no idea if they're particles, my eyes playing tricks on me, the weed, what have you. I've seen it on ~15 different occassions, but other than the patterns I see, it's kind of indistinguishable on the night sky. You really have to look for it.
Odd note: 2/~15 times I saw planes (3?) launch from Travis that were... well they weren't C-series planes. I can't say posivitely for sure they were fighters, but they blurred through the sky; small in nature and extremely fast. Not something you see come out of Travis often, then again I'm not going to pretend like I sit and stare at the sky all day. I did grow up there for 14 years of my life though.
However on Monday I saw something I've never seen before, here's a ghetto drawing before I try and explain:

I was out on my porch about halfway done with a stoge, when suddenly in the middle of the sky this bright light appeared out of nowhere, and started increasing in an angled elevation. It didn't appear to be moving away from me, just up and to the left. Holding my arm out, it's circumfrence was slightly smaller than the circle I can make with my pointer finger and thumb; a circumference of ~2-2.5 inches. It appeared to be at least in intensity, about 20-30 miles out in the horizon. Holding my arm out again, it appeared to be moving at about ~1 inch (with my fingers)/second. Not fast, but steady. At the rate it was appearing to move it should have passed this singular cirrus cloud (thin, wispy, kinda gray, semi-transparent, and the neat thing about these clouds is the way light distributes through them) in sub 2 seconds. Five seconds later, nothing. Ten seconds later, there was a radiant flash behind the cloud, and in the middle of that flash, was a conical light trail that moved perpendicular from me. Meaning... as the flash went off there was a trail that seemed to move away from me, but it's diameter of the cone was larger the farther it moved, and smaller as it was closer to me. I'd also like to note that the appeared acceleration at this point seemed to be roughly ~10-15x faster than when it was moving up/across the sky at first sight.
It was an absolutely bizarre sight.
Not making any conclusions, just not limiting them either 
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Awesome
So I guess George Washington had a close encounter at Valley Forge? He was just about to pack it in but upon a walk into the forest, he comes across aliens who inform him of the future of our country. The next morning he gives a speech that boosts morale.





