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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by C U AT 9K' timestamp='1317841379' post='21042601
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Well apparently, there is a lot of recorded visits by our ancient civiliaztions, that what this is all about. Due to their limited technology of heiroglyphs and word of mouth, the truth gets muddled through history.
Just because similar motifs and archetypes pop up among civilizations (some of which have never made contact with others) doesn't make them all genuine. The one unifying thing about our species is the brain and it's ability to play tricks on us, make us feel "spiritual", and attach emotions like love and fear to various events. It's the brain, stupid. The same goes for religion. You have cultural groups that have never made contact with the outside world yet they share many of the same beliefs and ideas and images that can be seen among cultures on the other side of the world. The only thing genuine is the mind's ability to conjure up abstract conceptions which we then stamp into our lives; it should come as no surprise that the nervous system of Homo sapiens conjures up similar images to all those who possess one.
So are you saying in your opinion that it's all bullsh!t? What do you think of the couple 15th centruy paintings above?
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No, it's actually not "bullshit". It's very real. It's as real as your emotions and your thoughts and your prayers. However "real" that really is in the universe, is up to you to decide. But the fact that similar motifs, like the belief in an after-life or the belief in deities of the sky or of the stars and whatever, the fact that these are all very common among some of the most diverse groups of humans on the planet, means their foundation lies in something we all share: A central nervous system.

You should do some reading on comparative religion/mythology, it may illuminate some of the answers you're looking for. Many of the ideas we carry with ourselves have been stamped into our subconscious from historical periods. They are as real as our fear of the dark.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by C U AT 9K
Originally Posted by North Star' timestamp='1317846316' post='21042894
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Well apparently, there is a lot of recorded visits by our ancient civiliaztions, that what this is all about. Due to their limited technology of heiroglyphs and word of mouth, the truth gets muddled through history.
Just because similar motifs and archetypes pop up among civilizations (some of which have never made contact with others) doesn't make them all genuine. The one unifying thing about our species is the brain and it's ability to play tricks on us, make us feel "spiritual", and attach emotions like love and fear to various events. It's the brain, stupid. The same goes for religion. You have cultural groups that have never made contact with the outside world yet they share many of the same beliefs and ideas and images that can be seen among cultures on the other side of the world. The only thing genuine is the mind's ability to conjure up abstract conceptions which we then stamp into our lives; it should come as no surprise that the nervous system of Homo sapiens conjures up similar images to all those who possess one.

So are you saying in your opinion that it's all bullsh!t? What do you think of the couple 15th centruy paintings above?
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No, it's actually not "bullshit". It's very real. It's as real as your emotions and your thoughts and your prayers. However "real" that really is in the universe, is up to you to decide. But the fact that similar motifs, like the belief in an after-life or the belief in deities of the sky or of the stars and whatever, the fact that these are all very common among some of the most diverse groups of humans on the planet, means their foundation lies in something we all share: A central nervous system.

You should do some reading on comparative religion, it may illuminate some of the answers you're looking for.
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Quit speaking in riddles!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by North Star
Quit speaking in riddles!
He's not really speaking in riddles. The only reality is, is that we have a central nervous system which is responsible for informing us on what we perceive reality to be. Infact, there's theory that none of this is real at all; even matter. Everything becomes "real" simply because we perceive it to be (smoke a bowl, read up on the observer effect [theory], and your brain will be like WTF). If anything our CNS' as far as we can tell, is the most real thing, of a possibly un-real universe. CU's certainly right (imo) about things being stamped in our subconscious; though we've never proven that thing exists
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteflash
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Quit speaking in riddles!
He's not really speaking in riddles. The only reality is, is that we have a central nervous system which is responsible for informing us on what we perceive reality to be. Infact, there's theory that none of this is real at all; even matter. Everything becomes "real" simply because we perceive it to be (smoke a bowl, read up on the observer effect [theory], and your brain will be like WTF). If anything our CNS' as far as we can tell, is the most real thing, of a possibly un-real universe. CU's certainly right (imo) about things being stamped in our subconscious; though we've never proven that thing exists
I can understand that, but the explainations seem besides the point, or are a method of distraction from the topic at hand. Unless he's trying to state that humans have always thought they saw UFO's since the dawn of our existence, in the same fashion that people think they see them today?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by North Star
I can understand that, but the explainations seem besides the point, or are a method of distraction from the topic at hand. Unless he's trying to state that humans have always thought they saw UFO's since the dawn of our existence, in the same fashion that people think they see them today?
I think what he's saying, who the f@#k knows, believe whatever you want to believe; maybe it's real maybe it's not. It's not a distraction because when trying to analyze the unproveable (or unknown) one must address all constants in hand. Including our own socio-physiological makeup, and our own perception of reality. And yes I think, that is more or less one concern he is addressing. Unless of course the lab experiment theory is the reason why we're here, and that's exactly why we've seen UFO's since our inception.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteflash
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I can understand that, but the explainations seem besides the point, or are a method of distraction from the topic at hand. Unless he's trying to state that humans have always thought they saw UFO's since the dawn of our existence, in the same fashion that people think they see them today?
I think what he's saying, who the f@#k knows, believe whatever you want to believe; maybe it's real maybe it's not. It's not a distraction because when trying to analyze the unproveable (or unknown) one must address all constants in hand. Including our own socio-physiological makeup, and our own perception of reality. And yes I think, that is more or less one concern he is addressing. Unless of course the lab experiment theory is the reason why we're here, and that's exactly why we've seen UFO's since our inception.
Have you ever seen a UFO?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by North Star
Have you ever seen a UFO?
Have I ever seen a flying object I wasn't able to identify? Of course.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by North Star
Originally Posted by whiteflash' timestamp='1317849737' post='21043066
[quote name='North Star' timestamp='1317849147' post='21043043']
I can understand that, but the explainations seem besides the point, or are a method of distraction from the topic at hand. Unless he's trying to state that humans have always thought they saw UFO's since the dawn of our existence, in the same fashion that people think they see them today?
I think what he's saying, who the f@#k knows, believe whatever you want to believe; maybe it's real maybe it's not. It's not a distraction because when trying to analyze the unproveable (or unknown) one must address all constants in hand. Including our own socio-physiological makeup, and our own perception of reality. And yes I think, that is more or less one concern he is addressing. Unless of course the lab experiment theory is the reason why we're here, and that's exactly why we've seen UFO's since our inception.
Have you ever seen a UFO?
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I watched what looked like a star do a figure 4 in the sky in the dead of winter. I still can't explain what it was.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
Originally Posted by North Star' timestamp='1317850255' post='21043091
[quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1317849737' post='21043066']
[quote name='North Star' timestamp='1317849147' post='21043043']
I can understand that, but the explainations seem besides the point, or are a method of distraction from the topic at hand. Unless he's trying to state that humans have always thought they saw UFO's since the dawn of our existence, in the same fashion that people think they see them today?
I think what he's saying, who the f@#k knows, believe whatever you want to believe; maybe it's real maybe it's not. It's not a distraction because when trying to analyze the unproveable (or unknown) one must address all constants in hand. Including our own socio-physiological makeup, and our own perception of reality. And yes I think, that is more or less one concern he is addressing. Unless of course the lab experiment theory is the reason why we're here, and that's exactly why we've seen UFO's since our inception.
Have you ever seen a UFO?
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I watched what looked like a star do a figure 4 in the sky in the dead of winter. I still can't explain what it was.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteflash
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Have you ever seen a UFO?
Have I ever seen a flying object I wasn't able to identify? Of course.
I'm sure I saw an unknown military craft streaking across the sky on my way home from Vegas. It was about mid day too and the thing was bright, almost chrome-like. My wife was staring at it for a few minutes before I noticed and she asked, "What is that?" We saw it clear some mountains and assumed it crashed on the other side. A smoke plume rose and a couple minutes later a Huey flew in towards that location. The funny thing was that there was no sound that we could hear as it flew past us, yet when the chopper flew by we could hear the blades.
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