any pharmaceutical sales reps?
I'm a medical device rep for the prosthetic industry, I love it, and my job isn't going anywhere.
I do not belong to a larger company and we are owned by 24 orthopedic surgeons. Capital is no issue, and I sell a product that is fairly new in the industry. I was given a tiny percentage of the company when hired on, so I huess you could say I have a tiny vested interest in the deal.
But like everyone else has said, once the company hits a certain worth, the for sale sign will be up. I'll have my percentage given to me along with my compensation in my contract. The future buyers of the company will need me for awhile for transition purposes, but I'll probably go and work for the physicians at their clinic once that day comes. Or they may just keep this company.
Either way, I could not ask for a better job at 26, and I've been the sales rep since I was 24. Go for it man, I've gotten to see the world and eat and the fanciest places this country has to offer, all the while sellign a product that is changing life. It doesn't get any better than this.
I do not belong to a larger company and we are owned by 24 orthopedic surgeons. Capital is no issue, and I sell a product that is fairly new in the industry. I was given a tiny percentage of the company when hired on, so I huess you could say I have a tiny vested interest in the deal.
But like everyone else has said, once the company hits a certain worth, the for sale sign will be up. I'll have my percentage given to me along with my compensation in my contract. The future buyers of the company will need me for awhile for transition purposes, but I'll probably go and work for the physicians at their clinic once that day comes. Or they may just keep this company.
Either way, I could not ask for a better job at 26, and I've been the sales rep since I was 24. Go for it man, I've gotten to see the world and eat and the fanciest places this country has to offer, all the while sellign a product that is changing life. It doesn't get any better than this.
I see the reps from the physician's stand point and have heard stories about rep (don't know how true).
It's a competitive business. You start out low and earn little until you get a desirable product or go into surgical field. The highest earning rep I know pulls in 300K/year (ortho surgical product) but getting there requires years in the field and you have to prove yourself. My old surgical rep pulls in 200K+/year at my previous job (She just felt like sharing that one day b/c she was pissed of at a doctor who belittled her. We are pretty good friends by that point so she felt comfortable enough with me to rant about this jerk of a physician). If you can't do surgical, at least do specialty; better pay and better working conditions. During my med school years, we all rotated through primary care offices and those reps are mostly ignored and treated poorly. No physician have the time of day to listen to even a 15minute talk about drug from each and every rep so they ended up pitching to us students or nurses who had more time then ended up leaving samples. Their target audience, the doctors, glided in, nodded their head for 30 seconds, signed for the drug samples, then left. I felt pretty bad for those guys/gals. You have to have thick skin. Also, be prepare to drive 30,000miles/year in the company car in all kind of weather.
I haven't seen "Love and other drugs" yet but that's a movie about pharm rep. Will one day get around to seeing it. Maybe you should consider watching it?
good luck
It's a competitive business. You start out low and earn little until you get a desirable product or go into surgical field. The highest earning rep I know pulls in 300K/year (ortho surgical product) but getting there requires years in the field and you have to prove yourself. My old surgical rep pulls in 200K+/year at my previous job (She just felt like sharing that one day b/c she was pissed of at a doctor who belittled her. We are pretty good friends by that point so she felt comfortable enough with me to rant about this jerk of a physician). If you can't do surgical, at least do specialty; better pay and better working conditions. During my med school years, we all rotated through primary care offices and those reps are mostly ignored and treated poorly. No physician have the time of day to listen to even a 15minute talk about drug from each and every rep so they ended up pitching to us students or nurses who had more time then ended up leaving samples. Their target audience, the doctors, glided in, nodded their head for 30 seconds, signed for the drug samples, then left. I felt pretty bad for those guys/gals. You have to have thick skin. Also, be prepare to drive 30,000miles/year in the company car in all kind of weather.
I haven't seen "Love and other drugs" yet but that's a movie about pharm rep. Will one day get around to seeing it. Maybe you should consider watching it?
good luck
I can't speak for the orthopedic side, but I do work in big pharma. Not sales, but feel I have some insight.
I don't believe that pharma sales reps are really sales reps. I don't believe any of the big pharmas sell to doctors. They sell to clearing houses and distributors. Consumers don't buy from the doctors, they buy from the pharmacy. In many cases, a pharma company may have an interest in a distributor or even a pharmacy to try and get a piece of distribution dollars, not just manufacturer dollars. The connection is that the doctor writes the script, which is the whole key to the system.
A pharma sales rep is really about distributing information and samples. My understanding is that you get minutes (the previous statement about 15 is probably way overstated) to make the doctor and/or staff aware of something new, leave materials and hope they 'get it'.
As for stability, our company's reps worked within one therapeutic area - Cardiovascular, Anti-Infection, Neurosciences, Transplant, etc... That let them present the whole range of possible therapies without having multiple reps do it. On the down side, as also stated, as patents come/go, reps for a particular therapeutic area were at risk. If there's nothing to sell in one area, you don't need reps to get the message out. In some more remote areas of the country (or other countries), a sales rep may have a region vs individual drug products.
I don't buy the whole expense account argument. Pharma, like many big industries is cutting back on expenses. Scrutiny by the regulators and lawmakers also removes much of what might have been considered favoritism obsolete. I bet anywhere you look, reimbursement for legitimate expenses is included. Golf on Wednesdays, probably not.
Good Luck with your decisions.
I don't believe that pharma sales reps are really sales reps. I don't believe any of the big pharmas sell to doctors. They sell to clearing houses and distributors. Consumers don't buy from the doctors, they buy from the pharmacy. In many cases, a pharma company may have an interest in a distributor or even a pharmacy to try and get a piece of distribution dollars, not just manufacturer dollars. The connection is that the doctor writes the script, which is the whole key to the system.
A pharma sales rep is really about distributing information and samples. My understanding is that you get minutes (the previous statement about 15 is probably way overstated) to make the doctor and/or staff aware of something new, leave materials and hope they 'get it'.
As for stability, our company's reps worked within one therapeutic area - Cardiovascular, Anti-Infection, Neurosciences, Transplant, etc... That let them present the whole range of possible therapies without having multiple reps do it. On the down side, as also stated, as patents come/go, reps for a particular therapeutic area were at risk. If there's nothing to sell in one area, you don't need reps to get the message out. In some more remote areas of the country (or other countries), a sales rep may have a region vs individual drug products.
I don't buy the whole expense account argument. Pharma, like many big industries is cutting back on expenses. Scrutiny by the regulators and lawmakers also removes much of what might have been considered favoritism obsolete. I bet anywhere you look, reimbursement for legitimate expenses is included. Golf on Wednesdays, probably not.
Good Luck with your decisions.
I have a client who's a medical device sales rep. He sells this pig skin stuff that is used to patch holes on organs or something. And the body accepts it. He showed me samples of it. Pretty nifty stuff.
Anyhow, he's actually in the surgery with the doctors and stuff... so I guess he's pretty high up? In any event, he owns a house, a diablo, and two other cars. I dunno what he makes.. but it can't be half bad
Anyhow, he's actually in the surgery with the doctors and stuff... so I guess he's pretty high up? In any event, he owns a house, a diablo, and two other cars. I dunno what he makes.. but it can't be half bad
you missed the boat. The days of bails of money, golf resorts and steaks dinners are a thing of the past. It is now holiday inn expresses and fancy take out joints. Hell, even my wife's large top 10 lawfirm has sliced the "dinners" to "approved" locations, which include Chipotle, Qdoba, and the like. The days of the corporate cards are dead, and so is the rest of the glamour associated with these fields.
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