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Off-topic TalkWhere overpaid, underworked S2000 owners waste the worst part of their days before the drive home. This forum is for general chit chat and discussions not covered by the other off-topic forums.
No problem! I'll get info to you guys as soon as I get a response.
Also, I may be speaking with a recruiter in the coming week so if I get the chance, I will throw some more info at you guys as well. It may take me a little while to get around to doing it because this week is finals week and I'm moving home next week...
Originally Posted by espelirS2K,Dec 18 2008, 09:44 PM
I don't have mine, as I'm colorblind and can't pass a critical test in order to get my license (light gun).
But in order to become a pilot these days, you should really have a degree.. in what? Well, that doesn't really matter, but Aeronautical Science is the way to go for sure.
With that said.. you need to get your private pilots' license. From there.. befriend people at your local airfield. Buy them gas, and wash their planes and get them to take you up to gain hours. It costs A LOT of money and time in order to get where you need to go.
After you get your Single engine private, and get hours, you go to instrument rating, then you go to twin engine ratings (turbo prop, jet engine), etc. Then you want to get your instructors rating after a few hundred hours in the air, and the way you do it, is with the money you gain from instructing, pay your way through new ratings.
That's by far the hardest, and most time consuming way to go about it.. but you already being in college it's pretty much the only way to go.
After you gain hours and get all your engine ratings through twin, go in to air cargo and build hours.. after 5-10,000 apply for either comercial, or the real way to go is through something like netjets.
It'd be nice if you could go to Embry-Riddle, it's the ivy league of Aerospace Engineering for pilots. Also look at San Jose State University (California) they have a VERY good Aerospace degree.
Good luck with whatever route you go! I envy you.
You need a commercial license before becoming an instructor.
Originally Posted by Jamison1987,Dec 18 2008, 05:04 PM
No problem! I'll get info to you guys as soon as I get a response.
Also, I may be speaking with a recruiter in the coming week so if I get the chance, I will throw some more info at you guys as well. It may take me a little while to get around to doing it because this week is finals week and I'm moving home next week...
No problem, take your time. Sleep_TIme and I appreciate it, thanks.
I think I know someone who is also a commercial airline pilot so I can post some information, too.
I had a good friend from high school go to Embry Riddle for Aero Engineering. I got a chance to visit him a couple years ago during spring break. Daytona Beach is a pretty cool place and the school was cool too. I got a pretty good tour and met a bunch of people. Its definitely an option to consider I guess...
Ok, I got my first airline job at 25, Im 27 I fly for Continental Express out of Newark, NJ and this career is EXTREMELY tough, ask your 757 flying Uncle or whatever. It is the only career where experience counts for NOTHING, if Continental goes BK then your Uncle goes back to 25k as a junior F/O. Its a long hard road, and costs a lot of money but I will say I have met some of the greatest people and have been to some amazing places. When I first put on the Uniform I will say I got a little choked up and it was like a dream come true, but a LOT OF SACRIFICE.
I instructed for a while and got a History Degree from RUTGERS, DO NOT GO TO EMBRY-RIDDLE, it is the most overpriced school out there and the airlines don't give a shit where you got your degree, just as long as you have it. PM away if you have any questions
Heres some pics of the 'ol office
PS some of the advice you are getting is completely wrong, not to sound like a dick but you dont become an airline pilot to go to NetJets, a lot of airline guys leave the airlines to go to NetJets, also you need only about 1,000hrs of flight time, of which 100 should be Multi to get hired at a Regional airline, (subsidiaries of the Mainline guys), last summer they where so short some airlines were hiring guys with 500hrs total time and only 50 multi, now becuase of the recession most airlines are furloughing (letting go) guys and when they do hire the times to get hired will be higher, but don't let that discourage you. I only make $55,000 as a regional F/O but when I upgrade to Captain ai will make twice that, and when I move onto a Major, like Continental Mainline, or something like UPS/FedEx you can MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, and the best part is I have off like 17 days a month off if I want, its pretty nice........ heres the order of things
Private License about 50hrs
Instrument (so you can fly in bad weather) takes about 30 more hours
Commercial, need to have a total of 250hrs Total time
then you get your CFI, (Certified Flight Instructor Certificate), so you can finally make money flying as well as build up your hours, which would be tooooo expensive to just buy, renting etc........)
Then you have to get Your Multi-Engine License, so you can fly twin engine airplanes, this will take about 15hrs then
Then you have to another chekride to get your "Commercial Multi-Engine License", then you just Instruct until you meet the airlines minimums and then you get called when day and get the interview
With each certificate you have to take a Written Test, then take a Checkride, which is basically like a driving test in the air with an FAA Examiner, he will also ask you questions before you go up in the air, its called an "oral Exam"
If you Bust a checkride you simply work on what you busted and go back up and try again.
When I first got hired at a US Airways Express airline I flew a SAAB 340, it was a 34 pax Turbo-Prop the thing was a blast but the first 121 (121 is the regulation number airline flying falls under, its commonly called 121) anwyway the training is about 2 months you start with Basic Indoc which is learning the COmpany policies/procedure, and then you move onto Systems and that can be very stressful and hard, you have to leanr about the airplanes, Elecitrical system, Hydraulic system, flight control system, its engines, its performance limitations, oxygen system, brake system, flap system, etc.......... then after you pass that test then you move on to the fun stuff, the FULL MOTION Simulator, you do about 8 4 hour training sessions where you leanr to fly the airplane the way the company wants you to, also for every emergency you have to learn Memory Items, so for example if an engine fails on take off past a certain speed you have to continue the take off, but you have to know exactly what to do, there are about 6 or 7 depending on the airplane, things such as rapid decompression, smoke in the flight deck, stuck ailerons etc......... so then after all that training you take another checkride and if you pass you then move on to "the line" your first couple of trips (actual passengers in the back )you go with a Check Airmen, its called IOE, Initial Operating Experience, the watch you and teach you how to fly the line, do all the pre-flight paperwork etc...........
haha I know it seems like a lot but it is not bad and though I get frustrated I COULD NEVER DO THE 9-5 THING, ever
I probably missed some stuff so please ask away
Also Microsoft Flight Simulator taught me a TON of information, I am not kidding either it is an awesome learning tool
This is climbing out of Leon, Mexico Embraer 145XR
Final Approach into runway 4R in Newark, NJ (EWR)
This is coming into Newark from the South over Philly
Climbing out of Nassua Bahamas