remington 870
this is the remington 870 w/ folding stock

pistol grip pump 870
this is a remington 870 with tacstar goodies the grips ,and magazine extention are relatively cheap .i have one without the mag extension
it's a very good gun to keep near the bed

 

the judge shoots .45 long colt or .410 shotshells (slugs or shot)
i have a buddy thats a gunsmith in baton rouge and he told me the judge is a piece of crap ,if you're interested in something along the lines of that look into the .410/.45LC derrigers a.k.a. a snake charmer ,but for home defense a 12 gauge is better

 

I think both of those are illegal in CA.. I imagine they require a full, non telescoping or folding stock on shottys.

 

Don't let the coolness factor of a pistol grip sway you. I think you made the right choice with a full stock. Pistol grips area harder to control which generally means less accuracy, especially for a smaller person. I've shot enough of both to tell you my choice would also be a full stock. It takes some practice with a shotgun to be proficient. Get some range time in.

 

LOL yeah, someone said much the same to me on a different forum:

"The primary purpose of a pistol grip only shotgun is that it allows you to miss the target entirely."

 

I've also found that taking a hacksaw to the barrel and the buttstock of a good Mossberg makes a formidable weapon against terminators. It won't kill a terminator, but it will buy you some time so you and Sarah Conner can make it to whichever getaway vehicle is handy. Not so good against the newer T-1000 terminators, but quite effective on the older M-101.

 

if you've ever shot a 12ga with piston grips you'd retract your statement
i have no problem killing rabbits, armadillos ,opossums and even squiels with mine

 

I predict that all it will take is one round with the shotgun at the firing range for the two of you to be back at the gun shop looking for a Glock.

Forget the laser, by the way.

 

Here's my take. Chambering a round to give away your position is a no no. You're just asking for someone to shoot at ur position if they armed with a gun. Best thing to do is call the police lock urself in a room with that shotgun unil help arrives.

Buckshots will go thru walls depending on the thicknes...00 buck usually contains 8-9 pellets of near 9mm size each...that will definately go to plaster with no prob.

Please also train and take a defensive shotgun class. If under stress you have to fire and rechamber the shotgun for the next shot you can accidently short stroke it...which is not fully cycling to reload...believe me this happens even to law enforcement unless they've taken tons of training and stress to operate a weapon under stress.

im not trying to negative...just stating what could happen in real life incidents...nothing ever goes all peaches and creams in stress or life and death scenarios. it all comes down to training

 

i disagree, if i were him i'd go to the local range and see if my g/f can handle a 12ga shotgun ,if she can't handle the 12 gauge try a 20 gauge ,even with the 20 w/ 00 buck she'll have enough spread to wound the person at close enough range
and hell if you think she'll choke with the pump action get a short (18-22inch) barrel semi-automatic
a 9mm dosen't have much knock down power for a crackhead ,i'd say the perfect round for home defense in a pistol would be a .38 special ,good bit of knock down power yet not alot of recoil but i would stay away from a pistol if is her first firearm