Off-topic Talk Where overpaid, underworked S2000 owners waste the worst part of their days before the drive home. This forum is for general chit chat and discussions not covered by the other off-topic forums.

Daaaaayyyum These Guys Were Young Too!

Thread Tools
 
Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:35 AM
  #21  
Road Rash's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,054
Likes: 0
From: Streamwood Il.
Default

Originally Posted by benny,Aug 16 2005, 06:03 PM
I am surprised that no one has pointed out the stupidity and greed shown by some of the investors who honestly believed they were going to receive a
125% return on their investment!
Sure, you can rant about the greed of the fund managers and the special place in hell that should be reserved for them but you must also recognize the greed of the investors that makes a scam such as this possible.
Hard to take advantage of someone who isn't trying to take advantage of someone himself!
What if these investors used a reputable, honest and legit company. And say they made a 125% profit.

Would you still consider the investors "Greedy" ?
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:39 AM
  #22  
vader1's Avatar
Member (Premium)
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,950
Likes: 474
From: MAHT-O-MEDI
Default

Originally Posted by Gymkata,Aug 17 2005, 07:30 AM
There is a difference between being ROBBED and losing money because you picked a wrong company to invest.
100% right. By the way, during the tech boom a 125% annual return was not unheard of and many funds did this well. It is not unheard of that one can do this with certain foriegn investments in developing countries. When magazines like Money or Fortune print the top performing funds of the previous year, there is often times a few that do over 100% return.

For several years in a row would be tough, and of course there is high risk involved. But I think calling it greedy because someone want to invest their money and see a nice profit on it has a very loose definition of greedy. If you had the opportunity to double your money in an investment you were convinced was a good one, you would not say "I will put it in a savings account, making too much money would be greedy and I don't want to make too much money."

I still think the investors were a little foolish for not looking into it further but to me the blame still lies with the thieves.
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:26 AM
  #23  
no_really's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,319
Likes: 0
From: City
Default

Originally Posted by Road Rash,Aug 17 2005, 07:35 AM
What if these investors used a reputable, honest and legit company. And say they made a 125% profit.

Would you still consider the investors "Greedy" ?
yes. One could certainly argue that the pursuit of ever-increasing amounts of money is what defines the term "greed."
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2005 | 02:09 PM
  #24  
Austblue's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,085
Likes: 0
From: 3rd bedroom on the right
Default

Originally Posted by no_really,Aug 17 2005, 10:26 PM
you do realize you are wrong, right? And to suggest people taking a risk don't "deserve" to lose is "ludicrous." So people only "deserve" to win, regardless of the risks they take? What the hell is a "risk," again? As I see it, taking a risk means accepting the fact that you may lose. One hopes you are mature enough to not cry when that happens.

No really, no_really you are wrong. Read gymkata's post and then re-read mine and you shall be enlightened.

Originally Posted by gymkata
There is a difference between being ROBBED and losing money because you picked a wrong company to invest.
Good to see that someone has comprehension skills in here, thanks gymkata

[QUOTE=no_really]Millions of people invest in the stock market every day.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:08 AM
  #25  
no_really's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,319
Likes: 0
From: City
Default

[QUOTE=Austblue,Aug 17 2005, 04:09 PM] No really, no_really you are wrong. Read gymkata's post and then re-read mine and you shall be enlightened.



You too have arrogantly altered the true definition of greed to suit your own personal morals and standards. Greed by definition is "an excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves". So to be truely correct and fair handed, to have the $1M burning a hole in your sky rocket then you're already "greedy" so being so "protective" of it and
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:52 AM
  #26  
kevieeroh's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,068
Likes: 0
From: Hermosa Beach
Default

crazy world.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:56 AM
  #27  
Road Rash's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,054
Likes: 0
From: Streamwood Il.
Default

Originally Posted by no_really,Aug 17 2005, 09:26 AM
yes. One could certainly argue that the pursuit of ever-increasing amounts of money is what defines the term "greed."

When it works I call the investors successful and smart, not greedy.

When the Korean dudes bailed I call the investors victims of theft, not greedy.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:56 PM
  #28  
Austblue's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,085
Likes: 0
From: 3rd bedroom on the right
Default

Originally Posted by no_really,Aug 18 2005, 11:08 PM
125% return isn't 25% profit :/ Already been pointed out by others.


Originally Posted by Austblue
I do concede that I probably misinterpreted the 125% return as 125% of investment being the total returned rather than the pure profit.
Originally Posted by Austblue
This definitely clarifies the percentage confusion
Are you really that bad at reading and comprehension or are you just trying to salvage points

[QUOTE=no_really]So I "arrogantly" changed the definition of greed?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
t.i.n.t.
Γενικά Θέματα εκτός S2000
14
Dec 11, 2009 09:18 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:54 AM.