ElTianti, you seem to be a little tightly strung. My whole point was that while science explains a fair amount, all of this knowledge is a work in progress. There is still much to be discovered and I predict that there will be solid evidence of the existence of ghosts, that's all. Please, lighten up a bit, eh?

I don't know why you assumed yourself a "slob" when talking about nootropics, I didn't feel it was necessary to explain all of it when it was only tangentially relevent to my position as stated above. I don't understand why you called yourself that...but that's no big deal. I actually think you are an intelligent person.

Funny you mention The Great Randi, I know and admire him a great deal. I also know of his million dollar wager. He has sniffed out the likes of Uri Geller as a complete fraud and I hope he always is able to keep his million dollars. I don't believe in those kinds of paranormal abilities and they are always the result of hucksterism and chicanery. But honestly, it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

I don't know who this Miss Cleo is, however. So I can't argue that point.

I'll leave it at this. While I think that science can explain a lot of things in this world, I think it lacks the ability to explain some things. It's advancing at a very rapid pace and perhaps one day it will offer a more complete analysis of all things. Right now, it's incomplete when it comes to certain things, IMO. That's my only point. But you tie in the people who have vested interests in keeping the science and medicine at the status quo, then you have an even more complicated morass of issues. There is such a thing as research that is vested, you know.

And speaking personally, I am not a black or white kind of guy. In my younger years, I was very ideological and absolutist. As I get older, I see that really isn't how the world works. There is a HUGE amount of gray area in the world and that's where most of life is lived. I apply that perspective to science, religion, philosophy, everything that touches my life, I take it from the perspective of it being relative.

I also try to argue my point without making silly quasi personal statements about pipes and so on, but that is more a matter of taste and style...to each his one, indeed.

Over and out...

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2R
Anybody know if the house from Amittyville horror is still around? [/QUOTE

The house, I'm sure is still around, but the whole story was proven to be a hoax...

 

I wonder if Platinum thought this thread would carry on this long!

Also, what if there are strange occurrances like Scott Baio in Zapped where he unbuttons women's tops just by thinking about it? Okay okay, sorry just had to throw some humor in there.

Its a fascinating subject really, but don't you think that these tales, out of all of them, that even the slightest of them could be true?

This subject got me thinking on a basic western christianity thought (sorry to bring up religion on here) and supersitions. Wasn't it the tree of knowledge that we were supposed to stay away from? For fear of what? Knowning? The only reason I bring this into the thread, if you think about it - the more we know the less we have to fear, and in most societies among themselves, the less educated they are the more supersitious. Right?

/my random two cents.

 

The Movie, 3 Men & A Baby was recently shown on TV in Australia. My girlfriend made me watch it with her while I also wanted to find out if the ghost in the scene was real anyway. They obviously got the first version because the little boy was indeed standing behind them in one scene. I think that is my first visual encounter with a ghost if it was really a ghost. If anyone can get a freeze on the image, you will see that the boy certainly doesn't look human the way he stares right at you.

 

But isn't the ghost in the movie supposed to be a hoax?

 

Takashi - stop freaking me out man, I remember watching it over and over and over and even freaking myself out!

 

Yes I have only had a few things happen, since my sister moved out, instead of it happening all the time.
What can I say guys, I don't believe in this crap, I don't want to, but it's there, I can't deny it. I've got nothing to gain by telling you it's true, Not fame, nor money..Which is the only reason I do anything really. I don't have any hard evidence, I've never recorded anything, And I don't really care to. My girlfreind did say I sleep with my eyes open sometimes, this may explain some things??? But you tell me how a door can slam shut, when I'm 2 feet next to it, with a smoke in my hand, The smoke didn't move, so no wind, no earthquake.

If any of you get a chance, read a book called the Holographic Universe, by author Michael Talbot. It is a thoery of the universe, that tries to explain things that science can not at this time. This book has changed my thinking tremendously.
Relating to the book, it mentions levels and plains, and draws parrallels to how a true hologram ( not the cheesy ones on your credit cards ) holds the same image regardles how it is broken down. 5 pieces, 1 million pieces, it always has the full picture. It would take me 2 pages to explain why, but with all the things around us, there are always more then one posibility.

Also Eltianti, It's obvious that you don't agree, That's your chioce, and I'm sure you're the majority, but cool it a little eh. Nobody is here to be ridiculed by you.

 

This pic gives me the creeps... though it is fake.

 

I don't believe in ghosts. Except in pac man

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Takashi KazuMori
[B][COLOR=red]The Movie, 3 Men &