Ethical question: Report friend's DUI's?
Originally Posted by OCMusicJunkie,Aug 11 2007, 05:14 AM
Just a question for everyone here who is strongly opposed to drunk driving. If you've had 1-2 beers at a restaurant and you can feel a little buzz, but obviously (based on the BAC chart) would be under .08, do you always still say no to driving?
Here's a story. I get a new job and the boss likes to take people out all the time to one of the best steakhouses in Columbus. I'm still pretty young and foolish and of course think i'll never die, kill anyone or get caught. I leave the place completely sauced, get in my car and decide to take the scenenc route home instead of the freeeway. So i'm driving along and at the point where this more scenic route crosses under the freeway, theres a sheriff's drinking and driving checkpoint before and on the bridge above. I count my lucky stars, pull over, call my girlfriend to come pick me up and haven't done it since. That would have been an expensive and devastating lesson to learn at that point in my life.
Maybe the better question is "why is she drinking every night?"
If she's going out every night alone, maybe there's a deeper loneliness or depression issue you could address instead.
Otherwise, why not carpool?
Or else go to the bars with her and you can take her home! Beer goggles FTW!!!
If she's going out every night alone, maybe there's a deeper loneliness or depression issue you could address instead.
Otherwise, why not carpool?
Or else go to the bars with her and you can take her home! Beer goggles FTW!!!
Originally Posted by OCMusicJunkie,Aug 10 2007, 01:12 AM
So I have a friend who will NOT stop driving drunk. I've tried talking to her about how stupid it is, how she could end up being arrested, and how her father WILL take away her car (she pays for it, he's on title) if she's caught...
Tonight she called me slurring so badly I could not understand her. Fifteen minutes later she calls me because she crashed her car into the garage at her apartment.
If you know someone is driving drunk 1-2 times a week, would you keep talking to them when they won't listen, or would you actually call in a DUI when you know they are on the road drunk... simply in hope it will scare them straight before someone gets hurt?
Tonight she called me slurring so badly I could not understand her. Fifteen minutes later she calls me because she crashed her car into the garage at her apartment.
If you know someone is driving drunk 1-2 times a week, would you keep talking to them when they won't listen, or would you actually call in a DUI when you know they are on the road drunk... simply in hope it will scare them straight before someone gets hurt?
That being said, in order for someone to be charged of DUI an officer has to have probable cause (when all facts or evidence that would lead a reasonable person to believe that a crime has been or is being committed). In otherwords, unless she is subject to a blood, breath, or urine test or the standard field sobriety tests the officer will not be able to arrest her.
If you really want to report her to the police, you will have to wait until she gets drunk and gets behind the wheel. In most states, if you are drunk, behind the wheel, and have the keys in the ignition you can be charged (you dont have to be driving).
The NHTSA did a study and found that most people who drive while intoxicated do so more than 80 times a year! That is a SCARY statistic. Our parents, siblings, and children uses these roads too.
The sad truth (and you can ask any police officer this) is that EVERY person that I have charge DUIs with absolutely deny they are drunk, even after viewing the breathalizer tests.
Your friend will not stop drinking and driving until she gets into an accident or hurts someone.
In my opinion, the best you can do as a friend is let her family know. This will cost you her friendship. But if it keeps her alive (or others) I would do it. Her dad can atleast limit the use of her car and you can absolve yourself of any guilt if she hurts someone. She wont stop until she hurts herself or others, I've seen so many accidents caused by alcohol. And it's always after something horrible happens that makes people change
Good luck! Let us know how it turned out.
Originally Posted by OCMusicJunkie,Aug 11 2007, 01:14 AM
I totally agree with everyone here who says she's being reckless, selfish, and immature.
I told her today that I'm letting her dad know how the damage to her car happened if she does this one more time. That gave her a pretty good scare. I plan on fully following through on the threat.
Just a question for everyone here who is strongly opposed to drunk driving. If you've had 1-2 beers at a restaurant and you can feel a little buzz, but obviously (based on the BAC chart) would be under .08, do you always still say no to driving?
Seeing her has made me so paranoid, I actually won't have more than 1 drink with dinner and drive. This annoys a lot of people, as clearly someone my size wouldn't get a DUI for anything less than 3 drinks.
I told her today that I'm letting her dad know how the damage to her car happened if she does this one more time. That gave her a pretty good scare. I plan on fully following through on the threat.
Just a question for everyone here who is strongly opposed to drunk driving. If you've had 1-2 beers at a restaurant and you can feel a little buzz, but obviously (based on the BAC chart) would be under .08, do you always still say no to driving?
Seeing her has made me so paranoid, I actually won't have more than 1 drink with dinner and drive. This annoys a lot of people, as clearly someone my size wouldn't get a DUI for anything less than 3 drinks.
As for repeated drunk drivers, I have absolutely no tolerance for them. They should be sent to a Chinese jail and caned by them Chinese.
American jail is too good for them.
I have to disagree with you to a limited extent, kumainu.
Yes, a light buzz is not horrible, but it's still a sign of impaired judgement and that is the problem. Balance sure..if you cant stand, you sure as hell cant drive. If you are buzzed, you are not at a level of awareness that may save your life (or that of others) when a split second reaction may be necessary.
Not to preach..I have, when I was younger, driven home when I shouldnt have. I made it ok those few times. One time I was way too far gone to have even considered it. The other times, I was lightly buzzed and felt "fine".
When I stopped to think about it and reflect on it, the only thing that kept coming to mind was "what the f*** was I doing". I dont do it anymore.
Yes, a light buzz is not horrible, but it's still a sign of impaired judgement and that is the problem. Balance sure..if you cant stand, you sure as hell cant drive. If you are buzzed, you are not at a level of awareness that may save your life (or that of others) when a split second reaction may be necessary.
Not to preach..I have, when I was younger, driven home when I shouldnt have. I made it ok those few times. One time I was way too far gone to have even considered it. The other times, I was lightly buzzed and felt "fine".
When I stopped to think about it and reflect on it, the only thing that kept coming to mind was "what the f*** was I doing". I dont do it anymore.
Originally Posted by OCMusicJunkie,Aug 11 2007, 02:14 AM
I told her today that I'm letting her dad know how the damage to her car happened if she does this one more time. That gave her a pretty good scare. I plan on fully following through on the threat.

**** drunk drivers.
Find new friends.
Turn her in, She will thank you in a couple years, even if she knows it was you who turned her in.
How would you feel if you didn't do anything and she killed herself along with an innocent driver one night?
Shitty but it's gotta be done.
How would you feel if you didn't do anything and she killed herself along with an innocent driver one night?
Shitty but it's gotta be done.
Originally Posted by Insert Name,Aug 12 2007, 02:32 AM
Turn her in, She will thank you in a couple years, even if she knows it was you who turned her in.
How would you feel if you didn't do anything and she killed herself along with an innocent driver one night?
Shitty but it's gotta be done.
How would you feel if you didn't do anything and she killed herself along with an innocent driver one night?
Shitty but it's gotta be done.
-why do bars have parking lots, close em? if their patrons are drunk ask for a ticket, put it on your windsheild and leave your car parked on the street till saturday/ sunday noon.
-everyone thinks she will kill herself and ten other people, just like fox news.
-the court system and the police dont do good. this is not their purpose to fix anything. stay away.
-friends i dont like just leave, keep it simple. your friends... are you are on their clean up staff or do you run a self imporvement program (to bring friends up to standards). select the compatables to hang with.
Your friend needs rehab/intervention from what it sounds like. I would definitely call the cops on her. Like someone else mentioned....what if she was drunk and killed your mom or someone and you did nothing about it. That is not something I would want on my conscience....not when you could have intervened. She will thank you years from now.
Originally Posted by Sabre,Aug 12 2007, 01:14 AM
I have to disagree with you to a limited extent, kumainu.
Yes, a light buzz is not horrible, but it's still a sign of impaired judgement and that is the problem. Balance sure..if you cant stand, you sure as hell cant drive. If you are buzzed, you are not at a level of awareness that may save your life (or that of others) when a split second reaction may be necessary.
Yes, a light buzz is not horrible, but it's still a sign of impaired judgement and that is the problem. Balance sure..if you cant stand, you sure as hell cant drive. If you are buzzed, you are not at a level of awareness that may save your life (or that of others) when a split second reaction may be necessary.
Again, I have absolutely no tolerance for drunk drivers, especially repeated drunk drivers.





