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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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[QUOTE=NFRs2000NYC,Jul 3 2007, 03:55 PM]Exactly. Any for those knocking Rolex...it is still one of the best watches money can buy.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Fake watches FTW! Why spend 10x or more the money for the real thing when a fake looks 99.99% like the real thing and is probably more reliable?!!

Put a Seiko's movement into a fake Rolex, FTW!!! Looks like a Rolex and lasts a lifetime.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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[QUOTE=kumainu,Jul 3 2007, 05:28 PM]Fake watches FTW!
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stockae92,Jul 3 2007, 07:52 PM
what do you mean by best watches? in terms of what?

please do explain what kind of technology Rolex put into their case?

All though I dont care for your tone, Ill humor you. Rolex has always been a very quality controlled watch. They have a very strict dealer network, and when you buy legit, you are ALWAYS guaranteed a quality watch, they they NEVER DROP IN VALUE. Most Rolex watches over $5000 APPRECIATE in value. Their movements, while not the best in the world, are still fantastic, and are ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK.

I wont go into explaining Rolex's milling technology of their cases, if you want to know, do your own research. The Rolex submariner is still to this day (the watch is DECADES old) considered to be in the top 5 diving watches ever created.

Moreover, about quality and movements. There are people like myself, PLYRS3 who have nice watches (like his Daytona and my Jaeger Le C.) that we wear to a nice black tie function. 99% of the time, watches are judged based on "special circumstances." Does a Rolex have the best movement? Hell no, not even close, right? Right AND Wrong. Patek Philippe and Franck Muller are considered to be the finest movements, or at least in the top 5. However, are they still the finest movements when you slam them against your cinderblock wall when you are running to your phantom parked in your 10 car garage? Not a chance, the watch will split open into a million pieces. Now, granted, you would be an idiot to wear a watch like that going to get groceries, but, that same rich guy with a $500,000 Franck Muller needs a nice watch to wear all the time, that can be slammed with a sledge hammer, and still work (yes, you can slam a submariner with a sledge and it will still run)....so....I say it again, just because its not the best movement, doesnt mean its not the best movement. And before you call me a fanboi, I do like Rolex, but it is NOT my favorite watch, probably not even in the top 5.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GT_2003,Jul 3 2007, 06:42 PM
typically, a "high end" watch maker buys a movement, totally disassembles it, checks/modifies/adjusts each and every part for precise tolerances, polishes and decorates every surface (even, or especially, the ones only a watchmaker would ever see), reassembles the movement, checks/adjusts it for accuracy pretty damn close to what you'd get with a $30 Casio, and installs it in a case that has itself been treated every bit as thoroughly and carefully finished to a standard that just doesn't exist in any other industry. The case may be produced from a variety of expensive materials, from rose gold to platinum, and the face is carefully machined and decorated or plated, enameled, whatever. All this comes before any diamonds or other encrustations. And doesn't even get into the various complications like chronographs, perpetual calendars, and tourbillions.

When you spend $17,000 on a watch, unless it's a diamond-studded Rolex, most of the money is inside the case. And considering the heights to which the craft is carried, one could claim that a $17K watch with no diamonds or other supefluous baubles is not even "high end."

To be fair to Rolex, some of the value is in the durability of the movements in watches like the Explorer. To be fair to everybody else, Rolex aren't the only ones making durable watches, and certainly not the most reasonably priced. But like Porsche, they cost what they cost, and if you don't feel like paying that, you have plenty of choices.
Thanks for the explanation.

So for the guys into watches ( I may be talking about you NFR ), how did you guys get into this "hobby"? I call it a hobby when you know a lot about watch making and obviously own a few nice time pieces.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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[QUOTE=GT_2003]why do you have a nice car?
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by erik,Jul 3 2007, 09:53 PM
Thanks for the explanation.

So for the guys into watches ( I may be talking about you NFR ), how did you guys get into this "hobby"? I call it a hobby when you know a lot about watch making and obviously own a few nice time pieces.
Well, me personally, I worked in the watch and diamond business for 5 years, so that's how I got into it.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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[QUOTE=mxt_77,Jul 3 2007, 07:06 PM] The best I can figure is that it's like someone who buys a classic Ferrari for the sentimental value, heritage and collectability instead of spending considerably less money on a newer sports car (like an S2000) and having a car that is functionally superior (faster, more agile, safer, etc).
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kumainu,Jul 3 2007, 05:28 PM
Fake watches FTW! Why spend 10x or more the money for the real thing when a fake looks 99.99% like the real thing and is probably more reliable?!!

Put a Seiko's movement into a fake Rolex, FTW!!! Looks like a Rolex and lasts a lifetime.
Don't think that Seiko only makes cheap electronic watches. Grand Seiko's made for the domestic Japanese market only are automatic mechanical watches that go for $5000 to $10000 and are equal to the best that Switzerland can produce. I have a new Rolex Yacht-Master, two Omega's and 6 other high end Swiss watches and all of them are less accurate than my Seiko GMT Spring Drive. And that's no cheap watch as it goes for about $4000.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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James Bond rocked a Seiko in a few films IIRC.
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