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Old Mar 15, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by S2Kguy
That graph means nothing, if you want to refute my claim you'll need to list every Cable company in the US, and every DSL company as well, you're wasting bandwidth again.

I do this for a living, go back to school.
that remark was rather vulgar.. what exactly do you do for a living to know that DSL is faster than Cable? Where did you get the national average (just asking because I am curious bout the whole DSL/Cable thing, and it seems you don't know much about computers... https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...threadid=102919)
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Old Mar 15, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by S2Kguy
I do this for a living...
Based on your comments here and the post that EvoVII references, I can see you're a regular computer wiz.

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Old Mar 15, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Sorry, that was as sore spot, I apologize...your comment rubbed me the wrong way.

I work for SBC, it's our job to know these things.

FACT: Cable is generally faster than DSL in the evening
FACT: DSL is generally faster than Cable in the daytime
FACT: Cable is shared, DSL is not
FACT: Cable is always on (increasing its vulnerability), DSL is not
FACT: The average person can easily hook up DSL and can't hook up Cable
FACT: DSL offers much easier home networking because it uses the existing telephone lines
FACT: Cable can handle 30MB, ADSL can handle only about 13MB, but VDSL (which will be the future of DSL) will easily handle 50-75MB

Should I go on?

I'm not a computer wiz, not nearly, but I know my product and its future.
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Old Mar 15, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by S2Kguy
I work for SBC...

Should I go on?
No, given SBC's D- rating, that explains everything.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 01:29 AM
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by S2000 Driver


No, given SBC's D- rating, that explains everything.
Now you're showing your true ignorance, but it's not my responsibility to enlighten you, so believe what you want from 1 little idiot-graph. It suits you.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by S2Kguy
It suits you.
As does your employment by such a poorly rated company as SBC.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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I smell , dunno how a guy who knows nothing about computers, majored in philosophy/history, which doesn't involve math, works for something computer related..

anyways, back to the subject at hand, from my knowledge, Cable could go 300K, DSL could go 100K max cap., I can list a bunch of "facts", but I wouldn't have proof to back my statement up
(I'm glad you didn't become a lawyer, you usually need evidence of what you are trying to prove )
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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"In terms of theoretical peak raw performance, cable modem generally wins the speed battle over DSL. Cable technology can, in theory, achieve networking speeds of approximately 30 Mbps (using a 100 Mbps network interface card), whereas most forms of DSL cannot reach 10 Mbps. (VDSL is one variant of DSL that matches cable's performance, but it is not generally available.)

In practice, though, the speed advantage of cable over DSL is much lower than might first be apparent. Both cable modem and DSL performance vary from one minute to the next depending on the pattern of use and traffic congestion on the Internet. This means that both services will rarely -- if ever -- reach peak performance.

Furthermore, cable modem technology delivers shared bandwidth within the local neighborhood while DSL delivers dedicated local bandwidth. With cable, performance at any given time depends on how many cable subscribers in the neighborhood are currently actively using the network as well as load on the Internet generally. This "double whammy" suggests that cable modem will perform relatively slower during peak usage periods.


Keynote Systems completed a benchmark test that backs up this assertion. Keynote showed that a very modest ADSL service (offering 384 kbps downstream and 128 kbps upstream) actually outperformed cable during the "peak personal hours" of 5 PM to 11 PM. While bandwidth on the Net is ultimately always shared at some point, it seems that cable services remain more susceptible to the phenomenon than DSL services."

Source: About/computer networking Keynote Systems

I await your educated responses.
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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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National average cable speed = 256K
National average DSL speed = 384K

These figures are what is paid for, not what can be achieved. Sure you can get 1.5MB from either...if you want to pay for it. Most people choose Cable over DSL because Cable is usually $39, and DSL is usually $49...you get what you pay for.
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