You need to change that statement to a FEW scientists think the earth is warming.

This isn't a Democrat vs. Republican issue as Al Gore, Warren and a few would have you think.

The earth does go thru warming and cooling cycles naturally. Absolutely the number of people on the earth has to have some impact, the question is how much.

The Mediterranean area used to be lush, the Sahara didn't used to be a desert, the Cedars of Lebanon used to mast most of the ships on the sea but mismanagement of resources simply wore the area out. Greece is now a barren rocky country.

People, most notably American, make fun of America for the amount of energy we use, but Americans have some of the best energy policies in the world.

It simply is not possible for us to regress to an agrarian society. Nor would we want to Agrarian societies is what destroyed the Mediterranean area. We think of the middle east as being a desert, it wasn't always so.

China and India are the worst energy hogs in the present day world. They have no regard for the side effects of energy production and use nor of natural resources.

 

They should be included in the Kyoto protocol as well, and then the US would probably sign it.

 

Thats somewhat dubious. We did not have an energy bill out of congress for several years because of gridlock and had policies that were pretty old to begin with. When you measure our fuel economy standards for us versus the civilized world we are dead last by a long margain. (although some third world countries have no regulations)


Having had a recent shoulder surgery I borrowed a Jeep Grand Cherokee from my dad because it was auto and I only own sticks. Though like most trucks and SUV's, its milage rating on the sticker was GREATLY stretched over real world milage. I got 15 in free flowing hwy traffic with very relaxed driving. I was also in a sea of vehicles, all about 5000 pounds carrying one passenger and gulping at the same or worse rate. I could not wait to get healthy just to drive my winter guzzler that gets only 24 in the same driving, but was still 60% better. Our milage standards are far behind Japan, Europe, China, etc. I don't know why that would be the most responsible energy policy?

I still think we should have the freedom to choose our type of vehicle, but reasonable minimum standards for milage, well beyond what they are now. I don't care if an Escalade can no longer get to 60 in six seconds. Nine seconds to sixty would be fine with me if they could milk into the 20's instead of 12-14.

I understand why people like 300 and 400hp family haulers, but calling them responsible from an nationwide energy standpoint is a a stretch at best.

 

CNN (I think) recently had an article on Kyoto and many of the countries, (most notably in W Europe) that had signed were not living up to the standards.

I'd argee that they are hogs in terms of the fact that they use many cheap old and inefficient form of generating power. China uses cheap coal plants by the dozen, but per capita, we use the most energy of any nation. People in India and China on average do not own cars. I've got three. Most people on this board have more than one and drive over 12,000 miles a year. They ride rickety bikes.

Outside of that though our energy for industry, home heating, and electricity is more cleanly produced and gives off less polution than other technologies used by India and China. My wife is a lobbyist for a gas company and they have some serious regs. Our state is trying to get them to follow a "renewable" mandate that would require all utilities to generate at least 30% of their power from renewables. Thats easy if you do electricity with windmills, damns and solar, but if you only buy and pipe out natural gas it aint that easy.

 

 

If humans are the cause of global warming and the melting polar ice caps on earth how are we causing the warming and melting ice cap on Mars as being reported by NASA?

 

Don't you mean "What is causing the melting ice caps on Mars?

 

Could be strong solar activity which we HAVE had in the recent past, but the point would be more relevant if we had more data on the martian climate. We have data for over a hundred years here but only recently landed probes on mars.

 

i think our children are screwed and humanity has a date with near-extinction. humans are dumb and deserve to die from an evolutionary perspective. just listening to some replies here, you can see that even with advanced warning, they continue to think everything is no big deal.

 

"humans are dumb and deserve to die"

charity begins at home