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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by st4rk,Jul 12 2010, 11:53 AM
Buncha gun totin billy badasses in this this thread.
Nah - I'm just a concerned citizen. THIS guy, however, is the genuine article.

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,Jul 13 2010, 03:35 PM
Then you'd like the 4" 686+ that I had to give to my ex-wife in the divorce... *sniff* That revolver was very accurate and had enough mass to handle pretty hot loads but I couldn't imagine wanting to carry it around all the time! Here's my ex-baby, taken with an old digicam and manual HDR (combining three exposures to tame the stainless and the black rubber) --



As serious a handgun as anyone could ever want. *sniff*
That is sexy. Sorry your ex took it.

Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by YoZUpZ,Jul 13 2010, 09:07 AM
What ever you get, make sure you practice with it a lot. What matters most is shot placement, not the size of the bullet... a .22 shot to the heart is 100x more effective than a .45 shot to the arm.
That's arguable. AFAIK, a rib will deflect a .22LR, hell any human bone will, pretty much.

Which makes hitting the heart a tough task for the .22LR-toting guy with sleep in his eyes and adrenalin pumping and scared shitless. Nobody is going to volunteer to get hit with it, and it will act as an effective security blanket. And that really seems all people wanting a carry license are after. Otherwise they'd be buying revolvers.

Getting shot with .22LR is not much different than getting stabbed with a pencil, if the rabbits and squirrels I've taken are any real-world indication. Whereas a shotgun slug or .45ACP will leave one hell of a wound even if hit in the arm. I'm not sure how much fight I'd have left in me when one of those goes through my humerus. I know a slug will turn the bones of a 120+ lb. deer into nothing, sure as hell isn't going to bouch off someone's chest or let them use that arm or leg for a long while if ever.

Unless you are getting shot at professionally, a carry license just makes you feel safer, it doesn't do diddly to your actual condition. All this discussion of the merits of various pistols and calires is interesting but ultimately academic.

I don't know any ex-soldiers or cops that want to carry a gun every day after exiting the service. Just saying.
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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It's not so much that you're carrying, it's the fact that someone is carrying that deters crime.

Truth be told, in states that are allowed to carry, there are very few people that actually have their liscenses and even fewer have ever had to fire a shot. As a whole, however, crime drops. When you don't know who's packing, you arn't going to mess with anyone...
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,Jul 13 2010, 02:35 PM
Then you'd like the 4" 686+ that I had to give to my ex-wife in the divorce... *sniff* That revolver was very accurate and had enough mass to handle pretty hot loads but I couldn't imagine wanting to carry it around all the time!
I lost my ability to positively contribute to this thread when Pen starting mentioning "hot loads."
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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I thought about posting in this thread, but then i was like, meh, i'm never going to want to drop $500 on a gun to even want to get a carry permit.

But hey, maybe i'll find some redneck at a flee market one day trying to sell me his for booze money.
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Diego1107,Jul 14 2010, 02:28 PM
i'm never going to want to drop $500 on a gun to even want to get a carry permit.
This is how I feel, actually. Guns are expensive.
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Mikey, going to any flee markets anytime soon?
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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[QUOTE=Diego1107,Jul 14 2010, 01:32 PM] Mikey, going to any flee markets anytime soon?
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Jul 14 2010, 10:07 AM
It's not so much that you're carrying, it's the fact that someone is carrying that deters crime.

Truth be told, in states that are allowed to carry, there are very few people that actually have their liscenses and even fewer have ever had to fire a shot. As a whole, however, crime drops. When you don't know who's packing, you arn't going to mess with anyone...
And unicorns are real animals, too, right? Santa Claus is real, along with the Tooth Fairy?

There is absolutely no data supporting that fantasy. There are so many factors affecting crime rates it's silly to isolate one and make any definitive claims. Especially something so unrelated as carry permit laws.



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