Graphic Artists...HELP!
Originally Posted by munckee,Oct 30 2004, 02:08 PM
Basically, the idea that I get from the statements above is that GHMG is a technology company that focuses on web, print, and video (television?) media, for B2B applications. The company doesn't have any maritime ties other than its location and it's name.
So, based on that, what's the big idea? What's their specialty or what sets them apart from other companies around that do the same stuff? Do you want a maritime theme integrated into the business, or do you want to leave the name as simply the name of the town that happens to be located on the ocean? Until those aspects are determined, all there is to play with is the name which is inherently ocean.
That's where I run into a problem with the logos you've posted. A few of them are just sorta random designs that aren't based in any concept. Phooey.
A few of them are visually interesting, but they seem to run with the "Gig Harbor" aspect far more than the "media group" which is what the business is really all about.
For example, look at Entry 10. It's a boat. If all I see is your logo, I'm going to assume that you're some sort of maritime company. Ok, so the designer argues that the company name is part of the logo. Then I assume that you're some sort of maritime media group (sonar? boat commercials?). Same basically goes for #14, only now I think you make lighthouse videos.
Entry 3 starts to integrate a little bit of a technology/media/something feel, but it ends up looking like a boat that's sounding its horn or something. Again, makes me think that you make sonar equipment.
From a VISUAL STANDPOINT, my two favorites are #1 and #2. #1 is easy to read, its interesting enough to make me wonder what a squiggly line represents and the use of color is good (but you have to consider if the effect would be the same in b/w?). #2 is a great design for the G. I get the anchor feel and I understand that's where the triangle on the tail came from (but it also looks like a devil's tail which is bad, esp. because the logo is red). HOWEVER, neither says media in any way to me. They're just interesting marks to associate with the company name. Neither actually says anything conceptual about the company for which it speaks.
To that end, the only selection that begins to get toward both media and gig harbor to me is #8. I start to get a sense that there is more to this than simply an ocean based company. So I guess this is a very long-winded dissertation to get to that point.
Sorry if this is more feedback than you wanted.
So, based on that, what's the big idea? What's their specialty or what sets them apart from other companies around that do the same stuff? Do you want a maritime theme integrated into the business, or do you want to leave the name as simply the name of the town that happens to be located on the ocean? Until those aspects are determined, all there is to play with is the name which is inherently ocean.
That's where I run into a problem with the logos you've posted. A few of them are just sorta random designs that aren't based in any concept. Phooey.
A few of them are visually interesting, but they seem to run with the "Gig Harbor" aspect far more than the "media group" which is what the business is really all about.
For example, look at Entry 10. It's a boat. If all I see is your logo, I'm going to assume that you're some sort of maritime company. Ok, so the designer argues that the company name is part of the logo. Then I assume that you're some sort of maritime media group (sonar? boat commercials?). Same basically goes for #14, only now I think you make lighthouse videos.
Entry 3 starts to integrate a little bit of a technology/media/something feel, but it ends up looking like a boat that's sounding its horn or something. Again, makes me think that you make sonar equipment.
From a VISUAL STANDPOINT, my two favorites are #1 and #2. #1 is easy to read, its interesting enough to make me wonder what a squiggly line represents and the use of color is good (but you have to consider if the effect would be the same in b/w?). #2 is a great design for the G. I get the anchor feel and I understand that's where the triangle on the tail came from (but it also looks like a devil's tail which is bad, esp. because the logo is red). HOWEVER, neither says media in any way to me. They're just interesting marks to associate with the company name. Neither actually says anything conceptual about the company for which it speaks.
To that end, the only selection that begins to get toward both media and gig harbor to me is #8. I start to get a sense that there is more to this than simply an ocean based company. So I guess this is a very long-winded dissertation to get to that point.
Sorry if this is more feedback than you wanted.
I felt the same way about all the ocean themes, I'm not a shipping company!
I had hoped to find a mark that could stand alone, with or without text, and still be identifiable. I guess you need to spend a bunch more for development and advertising to get the next golden arch or swoosh
From all the entries, I'm down to just two.
#08
and #15
I think both of these designs convey media (we do motion graphics, web, web hosting), and the fact that were near the water. This was important as our primary clientele are small to medium size businesses and many are mom & pop shops. There is a strong bias for these shops to do B2B with others in the harbor. I wanted the logo to convey a sense of "being local".
Even though we don't do film, I think the film sprocket holes in #8 still get the viewer into the right frame of mind (media) in a hurry while offering a harbor metaphor.
I think # 15 would be a much easier to use on various media though (cards, print, web, etc.) it's just a much more compact mark with a nostalgic look. The backwards "G" has to go though.
Both designs need to be tweaked just a bit, and we have to chose one from the contest so someone can get paid. After that, we're still not sure will use any of these marks.
Thanks again for the feedback, if you have anything else to offer on the 2 choices, please do!
Cheers -
Originally Posted by ironwedge,Oct 30 2004, 06:16 PM
I had hoped to find a mark that could stand alone, with or without text, and still be identifiable. I guess you need to spend a bunch more for development and advertising to get the next golden arch or swoosh
There needs to be a concept involved, some sense of identity. If they didn't ask more about who you are, then you're probably not going to get much out of them.
Lets put it this way: if you'd come to me with the above info and asked me to design a logo, I'd have a lot of questions before I got started...
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