happiness=drug addiction
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Originally Posted by trainwreck,Mar 2 2007, 09:20 PM
murdered kids on standardized test nation wide. i attended a top tier university (its top 50 according to US weekly/today or wutever). wut deos work have to do with anything. i know many doctors/lawyers/business men that use it all the time. you jsut wouldnt know it.
and i am glad tar was brought up. straight out of the antipot handbook written and funded by phillip morris lol. funny how alcohol and tobacco companies are the number one opponents of its legalization. can we say contending products???
but it does have more tar. thats what tobacco water pipes are for or even vaporizers. in fact you can even put it into a brownie!
and i am glad tar was brought up. straight out of the antipot handbook written and funded by phillip morris lol. funny how alcohol and tobacco companies are the number one opponents of its legalization. can we say contending products???
but it does have more tar. thats what tobacco water pipes are for or even vaporizers. in fact you can even put it into a brownie!
There are so many pot smokers out there that no one would suspect of being a pot smoker that it's funny. Everyone looks for a decrepid looking guy whose life is falling apart that they don't realize the freakin' guy in a business suit right next to them smokes his head off.
As far as health versus cigarettes, let's bear in mind that cigarettes are filtered while marijuana usually isn't. For such tests to be reliable, this would have to be accounted for.
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Mar 2 2007, 08:48 PM
5. "THC clears the lungs, etc, etc." Unproven and speculative.
I think I get the painkiller part. You're thinking of Sativex, right?
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Originally Posted by cyber_x,Mar 2 2007, 01:04 PM
This is just hilarious. Truth is, most people just don't know how many people around them are high. Not necessarily on marijuana, either. There are multitudes of people smoking pot, snorting coke, addicted to prescription painkillers, etc., all around you every single day, doing everyday things and living normal lives, and you don't see it because they're perfectly normal. We get bombarded with terrible images of people who screwed up their lives doing drugs so that's what we look for. But in reality, drug users are everywhere and in general their lives aren't very different from the typical guy who goes to the bar after work for a beer with coworkers. Believe what you will, but people are able to use drugs and live perfectly normal and productive lives.
Yes, there are people who destroy their lives with drugs. Likewise, there are people who destroy their lives by overworking, by overeating, by crashing their cars, and countless other methods. That doesn't mean that those things should be legislated (or maybe it means that all of those things should be legislated), and it certainly doesn't mean that those things are dangerous in the hands of all. Don't judge others by your own limitations.
The true tragedy is when a guy who is able to be productive, hold down a job, take care of his family, and so forth, is thrown in jail for smoking a little pot. Talk about ruining a life.
Personally I think it's a fool's errand to argue that marijuana use isn't unhealthy. Of course it is -- you're inhaling the smoke from a burning plant directly into your lungs! But really, the health argument is a moot and irrelevant point. The real question is why should something be illegal simply because it's harmful? If that were the criteria for legislation, then our daily lives would be devoid of too many familiar things to count. Where does the line get drawn? At marijuana? At alcohol? Red meat? Skydiving? Motorcycling?
Yes, there are people who destroy their lives with drugs. Likewise, there are people who destroy their lives by overworking, by overeating, by crashing their cars, and countless other methods. That doesn't mean that those things should be legislated (or maybe it means that all of those things should be legislated), and it certainly doesn't mean that those things are dangerous in the hands of all. Don't judge others by your own limitations.
The true tragedy is when a guy who is able to be productive, hold down a job, take care of his family, and so forth, is thrown in jail for smoking a little pot. Talk about ruining a life.
Personally I think it's a fool's errand to argue that marijuana use isn't unhealthy. Of course it is -- you're inhaling the smoke from a burning plant directly into your lungs! But really, the health argument is a moot and irrelevant point. The real question is why should something be illegal simply because it's harmful? If that were the criteria for legislation, then our daily lives would be devoid of too many familiar things to count. Where does the line get drawn? At marijuana? At alcohol? Red meat? Skydiving? Motorcycling?
yea the gov is getting pretty crazy with their moral/public health agenda. first nyc outlaws trans fat. i even heard some place is trying to make macdonalys illegal LOL.
one day i will have to drive to the ghetto and get a cheeseburger in a dark alley for 20 bux a pop. and then be pulled over. excuse me sir is that a big mac i smell. i am calling for back up. then the cops will probably beat my ass get me fired from my job and throw me in jail all cuz i just wanted a little transfat. at the station some deput will probably lecture me - son do you know what hamburgers will do to your body? it causes cancer you know. you might kill somebody while under the influence...
extremist will be extreme. and crazis will be crazis.
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Originally Posted by ricosuave,Mar 2 2007, 01:34 PM
how about manic people?
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Marijuana as a neuropathic pain killer. such pain is notoriously resistant to treatment with common powerful narcotics such as morphine and oxy contin. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/01/opi...edgrinspoon.php
Marijuana does not cause lung cancer
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...TL&type=science
Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, and the US government admits it
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.11
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.10
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.12
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...ogy.html#src3.8
Clinical trial data published in January 2003 issue of the Journal of the American Society of Clinical Investigation that found cannabinoids significantly inhibit skin tumor growth in mice.
Clinical trial data published in the March 2003 issue of The FASEB Journal that found that the "local administration of a non-psychoactive cannabinoid inhibits angiogenesis (tissue growth) of malignant gliomas (brain tumors)."
A clinical review in the October 2003 issue of the prestigious journal Nature Reviews Cancer that concluded that cannabinoids
Marijuana does not cause lung cancer
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...TL&type=science
Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, and the US government admits it
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.11
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.10
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.12
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...ogy.html#src3.8
Clinical trial data published in January 2003 issue of the Journal of the American Society of Clinical Investigation that found cannabinoids significantly inhibit skin tumor growth in mice.
Clinical trial data published in the March 2003 issue of The FASEB Journal that found that the "local administration of a non-psychoactive cannabinoid inhibits angiogenesis (tissue growth) of malignant gliomas (brain tumors)."
A clinical review in the October 2003 issue of the prestigious journal Nature Reviews Cancer that concluded that cannabinoids
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[QUOTE=vtec9,Mar 2 2007, 01:44 PM] Marijuana as a neuropathic pain killer. such pain is notoriously resistant to treatment with common powerful narcotics such as morphine and oxy contin. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/01/opi...edgrinspoon.php
Marijuana does not cause lung cancer
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...TL&type=science
Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, and the US government admits it
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.11
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.10
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.12
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...ogy.html#src3.8
Clinical trial data published in January 2003 issue of the Journal of the American Society of Clinical Investigation that found cannabinoids significantly inhibit skin tumor growth in mice.
Clinical trial data published in the March 2003 issue of The FASEB Journal that found that the "local administration of a non-psychoactive cannabinoid inhibits angiogenesis (tissue growth) of malignant gliomas (brain tumors)."
A clinical review in the October 2003 issue of the prestigious journal Nature Reviews Cancer that concluded that cannabinoids
Marijuana does not cause lung cancer
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...TL&type=science
Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, and the US government admits it
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.11
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.10
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...gy.html#src3.12
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...ogy.html#src3.8
Clinical trial data published in January 2003 issue of the Journal of the American Society of Clinical Investigation that found cannabinoids significantly inhibit skin tumor growth in mice.
Clinical trial data published in the March 2003 issue of The FASEB Journal that found that the "local administration of a non-psychoactive cannabinoid inhibits angiogenesis (tissue growth) of malignant gliomas (brain tumors)."
A clinical review in the October 2003 issue of the prestigious journal Nature Reviews Cancer that concluded that cannabinoids
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Originally Posted by trainwreck,Mar 2 2007, 04:20 PM
i attended a top tier university (its top 50 according to US weekly/today or wutever). wut deos work have to do with anything. i know many doctors/lawyers/business men that use it all the time. you jsut wouldnt know it.
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Lots of whaky tabbaky lovers in this joint (pun intended). If you don't think smoking marijuana will cause lung problems you need to stop smoking it's clouding your judgement.
There are a lot of arguements in here about different things.
I agree that there are a lot of high functioning people who use drugs often. If they don't have a problem with addiction they tend to do fine.
I think Marijuana is kept illegal because it would cause problems for the government. Since it is such a hearty plant the government couldn't regulate or tax it because you could grow it yourself. It would hurt the alcohol industry (but probably help the snack industry
) IMO and that more than health consequences is the reason it stays illegal.
There are a lot of arguements in here about different things.
I agree that there are a lot of high functioning people who use drugs often. If they don't have a problem with addiction they tend to do fine.
I think Marijuana is kept illegal because it would cause problems for the government. Since it is such a hearty plant the government couldn't regulate or tax it because you could grow it yourself. It would hurt the alcohol industry (but probably help the snack industry
) IMO and that more than health consequences is the reason it stays illegal.