HD DVD Battle Soon to be Over?
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Samsung Debuts Slimmed-Down Combo HD Player
Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:02PM EST
Samsung has just announced its second-generation Blu-ray/HD DVD combo player, and it definitely has an edge on its predecessor in the style department. But here's a bigger question: How much will it cost?
The glossy, piano-black, and just 2.3 inch-high BD-UP5500 comes with most of the older UP-BD5000's features, including full support for Blu-ray and HD DVD interactive features, playback of Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD soundtracks, as well as the ability to upconvert standard DVDs to full-on 1080p. Also included is out-of-the-box support for Blu-ray profile 1.1 (which allows for picture-in-picture commentaries on newer Blu-ray discs), an Ethernet port for downloading new firmware and accessing online content, and HQV processing for enhancing HD and SD video.
Overall, not bad, but here's the spec we really want to know: how much? Unfortunately, Samsung isn't releasing pricing info just yet, but hopefully it'll be lower than the $799 sticker price for the BD-UP5000
Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:02PM EST
Samsung has just announced its second-generation Blu-ray/HD DVD combo player, and it definitely has an edge on its predecessor in the style department. But here's a bigger question: How much will it cost?
The glossy, piano-black, and just 2.3 inch-high BD-UP5500 comes with most of the older UP-BD5000's features, including full support for Blu-ray and HD DVD interactive features, playback of Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD soundtracks, as well as the ability to upconvert standard DVDs to full-on 1080p. Also included is out-of-the-box support for Blu-ray profile 1.1 (which allows for picture-in-picture commentaries on newer Blu-ray discs), an Ethernet port for downloading new firmware and accessing online content, and HQV processing for enhancing HD and SD video.
Overall, not bad, but here's the spec we really want to know: how much? Unfortunately, Samsung isn't releasing pricing info just yet, but hopefully it'll be lower than the $799 sticker price for the BD-UP5000
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[QUOTE=JDM 4shot,Jan 8 2008, 04:01 PM] Samsung Debuts Slimmed-Down Combo HD Player
Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:02PM EST
Samsung has just announced its second-generation Blu-ray/HD DVD combo player, and it definitely has an edge on its predecessor in the style department. But here's a bigger question: How much will it cost?
The glossy, piano-black, and just 2.3 inch-high BD-UP5500 comes with most of the older UP-BD5000's features, including full support for Blu-ray and HD DVD interactive features, playback of Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD soundtracks, as well as the ability to upconvert standard DVDs to full-on 1080p. Also included is out-of-the-box support for Blu-ray profile 1.1 (which allows for picture-in-picture commentaries on newer Blu-ray discs), an Ethernet port for downloading new firmware and accessing online content, and HQV processing for enhancing HD and SD video.
Overall, not bad, but here's the spec we really want to know: how much? Unfortunately, Samsung isn't releasing pricing info just yet, but hopefully it'll be lower than the $799 sticker price for the BD-UP5000
Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:02PM EST
Samsung has just announced its second-generation Blu-ray/HD DVD combo player, and it definitely has an edge on its predecessor in the style department. But here's a bigger question: How much will it cost?
The glossy, piano-black, and just 2.3 inch-high BD-UP5500 comes with most of the older UP-BD5000's features, including full support for Blu-ray and HD DVD interactive features, playback of Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD soundtracks, as well as the ability to upconvert standard DVDs to full-on 1080p. Also included is out-of-the-box support for Blu-ray profile 1.1 (which allows for picture-in-picture commentaries on newer Blu-ray discs), an Ethernet port for downloading new firmware and accessing online content, and HQV processing for enhancing HD and SD video.
Overall, not bad, but here's the spec we really want to know: how much? Unfortunately, Samsung isn't releasing pricing info just yet, but hopefully it'll be lower than the $799 sticker price for the BD-UP5000
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Originally Posted by HKStallion,Jan 10 2008, 11:14 AM
not flaming you, but they made the 5500 because the 5000 simply didnt work (avs forums). thats my main issue with BR is that the CE players dont work as they should. i dont like the fact that the best player for the format is the subsidized gaming machine. the format is incomplete and in the end could kill itself with pissed off people. i know i would if i was J6P in Best buy and i bought a profile 1 player because it was cheap, then go to my buddies house and see the 1.1 or 2.0 features and wonder why my $600 player doesnt do that too?
BTW, dont expect any more B1G1 sales or 5 free disks or player prices dropping anymore. sony has already lost too much making the PS3 $399 even after taking out its backwards compatibility. it is time to recoup the $$$.
Dave
BTW, dont expect any more B1G1 sales or 5 free disks or player prices dropping anymore. sony has already lost too much making the PS3 $399 even after taking out its backwards compatibility. it is time to recoup the $$$.
Dave
Blu-Ray is more expensive to produce than HD DVD yet HD DVD movies are being sold for the same price
why? The savings are only being shown in the hardware department (which really is not the one that makes them the real money) while in the software (the one that makes the $$$) HD DVD is killing its customers. Is like...I prefer to pay for an S2000 at its $34,000 msrp than for a Civic at $34,000. Just my opinion.
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@ Diablo
I dont get your argument.
so you want to pay more for a player and the same for the software?
toshiba was subsidizing the players in hopes of making it up on the backend. Newsflash... so is Sony, just not as much (or more on the PS3).
So since BR Disks cost $.05-15 more per disk, toshiba should force the studios and stores (which set the prices anyway) to make them $.05-15 cents cheaper? (http://wesleytech.com/blu-ray-vs-hd-...-revealed/111/)
and to be correct, since HD is HD (dont give me storage specs, bandwidth, etc, more movies are reportedly just as good if not better than the BR copy plus now HD has interactivity, good luck with BD-J) Your example should read:
I prefer paying for an S2000 at its $34,000 MSRP than for an S2000 at $25,000, then i will buy gas from a different dealer at the same price as my local dealer only because i know it costs him 10 cents more per gallon to get it delivered to his location. so he isn't actually making money off of me.
And while you are paying for your S, the softtop in your S2000 will become powered in an upcoming ECU firmware upgrade (Q208) as well as allowing VTEC (not announced yet, but it is being displayed at CES!), while mine reaches 9k all day. Oh, and, certain early purchasers of the S2000 will not be able to enjoy the power softtop option or VTEC, but the car still gets you from point a to point b, which is all you ever wanted in a car, right?
One more benefit of HD-DVD, you can use a regular burner to burn HD material to a regular DVD-R and it will play in HD glory in your HD DVD player. I like this because for 2 years i have had a 720p camcorder and have no way of playing this for others besides a pc or the camera. now i can make HD home videos for about $1. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146
I am sad that HD is dead, i just hope Sony plays the good corporation and will start to release features that work quickly and cheaply. And most of all, they better start making use of the "extra" storage that everyone keeps talking about but not seeing.
Dave
I dont get your argument.
so you want to pay more for a player and the same for the software?
toshiba was subsidizing the players in hopes of making it up on the backend. Newsflash... so is Sony, just not as much (or more on the PS3).
So since BR Disks cost $.05-15 more per disk, toshiba should force the studios and stores (which set the prices anyway) to make them $.05-15 cents cheaper? (http://wesleytech.com/blu-ray-vs-hd-...-revealed/111/)
and to be correct, since HD is HD (dont give me storage specs, bandwidth, etc, more movies are reportedly just as good if not better than the BR copy plus now HD has interactivity, good luck with BD-J) Your example should read:
I prefer paying for an S2000 at its $34,000 MSRP than for an S2000 at $25,000, then i will buy gas from a different dealer at the same price as my local dealer only because i know it costs him 10 cents more per gallon to get it delivered to his location. so he isn't actually making money off of me.
And while you are paying for your S, the softtop in your S2000 will become powered in an upcoming ECU firmware upgrade (Q208) as well as allowing VTEC (not announced yet, but it is being displayed at CES!), while mine reaches 9k all day. Oh, and, certain early purchasers of the S2000 will not be able to enjoy the power softtop option or VTEC, but the car still gets you from point a to point b, which is all you ever wanted in a car, right?
One more benefit of HD-DVD, you can use a regular burner to burn HD material to a regular DVD-R and it will play in HD glory in your HD DVD player. I like this because for 2 years i have had a 720p camcorder and have no way of playing this for others besides a pc or the camera. now i can make HD home videos for about $1. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146
I am sad that HD is dead, i just hope Sony plays the good corporation and will start to release features that work quickly and cheaply. And most of all, they better start making use of the "extra" storage that everyone keeps talking about but not seeing.
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HKStallion - work for Toshiba or MS, do you? 
Capacity is a huge issue for those who build DLT's. The # of releases that shrink from 2 disc sets to 1 disc is fairly significant. That $.05-.15 you quoted gets paid back pretty quickly.
Capacity is a huge issue for those who build DLT's. The # of releases that shrink from 2 disc sets to 1 disc is fairly significant. That $.05-.15 you quoted gets paid back pretty quickly.
