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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Gink5' date='Feb 8 2005, 11:53 AM
He could also not do that and die of starvation.
Agreed, but it is possible for the Cheetah to live without taking life, it's just not intrinsic to his nature. Why must it be so? Are all things so equal? Is it one in the same to kill an Impala or a blade of grass? If so, aren't we equal to a blade of grass? How can we be thought of as "more"?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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True, although it's a question most impalas couldn't answer (even if they could talk - finally, we've come full-circle!). Do you know what it feels like to die of starvation? Do you know what it feels like to be killed by a cheetah? Do you know which is better?

I, for one, don't.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by S2Kguy' date='Feb 8 2005, 12:05 PM
Agreed, but it is possible for the Cheetah to live without taking life, it's just not intrinsic to his nature. Why must it be so? Are all things so equal? Is it one in the same to kill an Impala or a blade of grass? If so, aren't we equal to a blade of grass? How can we be thought of as "more"?
If a cheetah cannot get the nutrition it requires to live from eating grass then it may not be possible for a cheetah to survive without killing other animals.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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I don't know if you have taken classes in psychology but it is taught that humans do not have instincts.(this is another argument) Basically humans have intuition and all other animals have instincts. This is what really differs us from any other animals. It is the reason we are on the top of the food chain.

As far as why this must be, really can only be answered by you. Honestly I eat meat because it is tasty and
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by magician' date='Feb 8 2005, 12:07 PM
True, although it's a question most impalas couldn't answer (even if they could talk - finally, we've come full-circle!). Do you know what it feels like to die of starvation? Do you know what it feels like to be killed by a cheetah? Do you know which is better?

I, for one, don't.
Are we so different from the Impala? Which death would you choose?

P.S. A Cheetah can survive just fine without eating live meat, but it doesn't know that.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Suckling is an instinct
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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So, we're convicting a cheetah because of its ignorance, eh?



Which death would I choose? I don't know. I know that being killed by a cheetah would be terrifying and would hurt a lot, but perhaps not for very long. I do not know what it would feel like to starve to death, or to be consumed slowly by some disease.

Perhaps you should address this question to someone on the brink of death through starvation - would they rather have been killed swiftly by a large carnivore before beginning to starve, rather than being where they are now? - or to someone in the final stages of terminal cancer or emphysema or some similarly fatal disease.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by magician' date='Feb 8 2005, 12:04 PM
I find veterinarians to be the most skilled of doctors for precisely this reason: they cannot get an answer to the question, "Where does it hurt?"
So do you think my conclusion is more reasonable than that of the bumper sticker maker?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by magician' date='Feb 8 2005, 01:21 PM
So, we're convicting a cheetah because of its ignorance, eh?



Which death would I choose? I don't know. I know that being killed by a cheetah would be terrifying and would hurt a lot, but perhaps not for very long. I do not know what it would feel like to starve to death, or to be consumed slowly by some disease.

Perhaps you should address this question to someone on the brink of death through starvation - would they rather have been killed swiftly by a large carnivore before beginning to starve, rather than being where they are now? - or to someone in the final stages of terminal cancer or emphysema or some similarly fatal disease.
Oh no, nothing of the sort, the Cheetah is innocent in all this because its intrinsic nature is just to do as it has to in order to survive. I cannot say the same for humans, since it is blatantly obvious that our intrinsic nature is to think.

Why must I ask someone ill with cancer? You're a perfect candidate. You and the Impala are in good health, neither wishing upon itself a heinous death before you've lived your life.

You've already chosen don't you see? So have we all.

There is no Grand Scheme, there is only life.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by S2Kguy' date='Feb 8 2005, 01:39 PM
You've already chosen don't you see? So have we all.
The question is, have I chosen well?

Someone dying a slow agonizing death might be able to answer that question better than I.
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