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Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Nov 30 2009, 09:22 AM
How much do you pay for your lawyer? I've read $5000 for an almost guaranteed no-points-on-record deal.
Always fight a ticket. $500 on a lawyer is still less than the $1800 you'll pay in insurance over the next three years.
Originally Posted by wickedwiggles,Nov 30 2009, 01:20 AM
I got a speeding ticket for 66 in a 45 which I wouldn't really care about
no I don't know how fast I was goin
this is the second time the cop has cited me for 20 over
no I don't know how fast I was goin
this is the second time the cop has cited me for 20 over
All the judge is going to hear is 66 in a 45.
Originally Posted by Saki GT,Nov 30 2009, 09:34 AM
WTH? Most lawyers can be had for $300-500 and get the ticket changed to a non-moving violation if you have no previous. But, the OP was dumb enough to allow the first ticket on his record, and then got a second on top of the probation, so now he's in deep...
Always fight a ticket. $500 on a lawyer is still less than the $1800 you'll pay in insurance over the next three years.
Always fight a ticket. $500 on a lawyer is still less than the $1800 you'll pay in insurance over the next three years.
Ckit- I meant about the speed he clocked me at because I swore I was at 41mph but at that time I hadn't paid attention and it was his word and radar so seeing as it didn't really bother my insurance since it was deferred I didn't care but now its a different story, same cop same 20over ticket and this time I was paying attention and somethings not adding up.
Also the distance from 0-60 is in a straight line seeing as I was coming from a complete stop into a left hand turn the distance to reach 66mph is even greater as the turning would cause loss of acceleration correct?
SkNJ the first ticket didn't go on my record it was deferred B/c I DIDNT HAVE ANY priors, but how it works it only doesn't go if you do not receive another ticket b/t the time you pay and the date they give you which in my case was February so I guess yea now I got two tickets so it is deep heh hence why I must disprove this ticket and if in favor I can bring to light that the first ticket was also wrong b/c of this cops inability to use radar properly.
Any more thoughts or any good lawyers that any of you know of in the Edmond OK area?
Also the distance from 0-60 is in a straight line seeing as I was coming from a complete stop into a left hand turn the distance to reach 66mph is even greater as the turning would cause loss of acceleration correct?
SkNJ the first ticket didn't go on my record it was deferred B/c I DIDNT HAVE ANY priors, but how it works it only doesn't go if you do not receive another ticket b/t the time you pay and the date they give you which in my case was February so I guess yea now I got two tickets so it is deep heh hence why I must disprove this ticket and if in favor I can bring to light that the first ticket was also wrong b/c of this cops inability to use radar properly.
Any more thoughts or any good lawyers that any of you know of in the Edmond OK area?
Originally Posted by wickedwiggles,Nov 30 2009, 09:49 AM
Also the distance from 0-60 is in a straight line seeing as I was coming from a complete stop into a left hand turn the distance to reach 66mph is even greater as the turning would cause loss of acceleration correct?
Throw away 20 feet or 30 feet or 50 feet or 100 feet for the corner: you still have more than enough distance to hit 60 mph (or even 66 mph).
Let's put it another way: the argument that there wasn't enough distance to reach 60 mph (or even 66 mph) fails.
Try another tack.
I used almost the same argument to get out of a ticket for mine, just the opposite angle.
Cop tried to say I was "Speed Racing on Highway" after I squeeled my tires
Speed limit in town was 25mph.
I was pulled over 1/4mi away from where I came off a sidestreet. I was spotted approx 1/8mi away. It all happened fast.
I told the judge if I HAD been "racing", I could have potentially been going 60-70mph (based on a lot of maganize articles showing drag times for the S) by the time the cop spotted me, but he didn't radar me, didn't even mention speed to me during the stop because I wasn't speeding. The charge for speed racing includes racing, showing off, etc, but I was the only car around on the main drag (the cop was even on a side street). I argued that for me to burn out, "race" and then stop for the cop would have taken mere seconds which was a little bit ridiculous.
I got the ticket dropped
Math FTW....sort of.
Cop tried to say I was "Speed Racing on Highway" after I squeeled my tires
Speed limit in town was 25mph.
I was pulled over 1/4mi away from where I came off a sidestreet. I was spotted approx 1/8mi away. It all happened fast.
I told the judge if I HAD been "racing", I could have potentially been going 60-70mph (based on a lot of maganize articles showing drag times for the S) by the time the cop spotted me, but he didn't radar me, didn't even mention speed to me during the stop because I wasn't speeding. The charge for speed racing includes racing, showing off, etc, but I was the only car around on the main drag (the cop was even on a side street). I argued that for me to burn out, "race" and then stop for the cop would have taken mere seconds which was a little bit ridiculous.
I got the ticket dropped

Math FTW....sort of.
Even with the most conservative specs (0-62mph in 7.2 seconds), you can still get to 78.8 mph in 528 feet. Sorry, that argument won't work unless you had some way to measure decibel levels and can prove you weren't going WOT.
Edit: Guys, we're forgetting that 0-60 usually involves a hard launch. That's obviously not the case here. The most conservative 5-60 time is 7.3 seconds. Using that, you get 73.5 mph in .1 miles. While that is still above 66, you might be able to argue that because acceleration isn't constant, you wouldn't be able to maintain that acceleration? You could argue that 0-5 is going to be the slowest part of first gear, and that anything above 60 is going to be drastically lower than the average acceleration during 0-60 (especially considering over 60 is going to be in third gear, whereas 5-60 takes place in first and second). You'll also have an extra gear change in an AP1 after 60.
Edit: Guys, we're forgetting that 0-60 usually involves a hard launch. That's obviously not the case here. The most conservative 5-60 time is 7.3 seconds. Using that, you get 73.5 mph in .1 miles. While that is still above 66, you might be able to argue that because acceleration isn't constant, you wouldn't be able to maintain that acceleration? You could argue that 0-5 is going to be the slowest part of first gear, and that anything above 60 is going to be drastically lower than the average acceleration during 0-60 (especially considering over 60 is going to be in third gear, whereas 5-60 takes place in first and second). You'll also have an extra gear change in an AP1 after 60.









