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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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I ordered a black 4 gig one. 5-7 business days end to end.

The players listed above are crap in comparison.

I'm not a fan of Apple, but they do sell a solid product with a good interface for a premium. My wifes 17 inch G4 notebook is nice enough that despite the horrid OS I generally grab for it first to use on the couch ...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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OSX.4 is awesome... you really should take a lil time to let the OS consume you. I wonder how much discount I get on this.. hmm.. time to go check.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Sep 12 2005, 04:31 AM
Jeez, did an iPod kill your mom or something? Its a great design, and its not over priced if you look at the market.



Mp3 is a universal format, any mp3 player can play any mp3. The song files you buy all have file protection (Apple's is AAC, Microsoft's is WMA), meaning the only way to copy them is to burn them onto a CD, and then rip them back onto your HDD as a normal mp3's. Fwiw, AAC is an open format, WMA is proprietary.

iPods play any mp3, mp4, WAV, AIFF, normal AAC, or Apple protected AAC. You can't play a normal WMA file on an iPod, but if you drag a WMA into iTunes, it will convert it to mp3, AAC, or whatever format you want.
I went at looked at one in the store,and cheked it out online, and have kinda changed my mind on it . It is pretty cool that it is so sleek and small, but seriously, the format limitations are a bit off-putting for someone who doesn't own a Mac (who uses AAC besides Apple?). Converting formats is a horrible thing to do to a compressed audio file, not something that is even worth it in my mind. I'd rather have a player that can play WMA as well as MP3, seeing as wma is better than mp3, bitrate for bitrate. And I fail to see how viewing images is any great feature, considering the screen is so tiny.

Converting purchased compressed audio to wav and then back to mp3 or something is just stupid, IMHO, as it totally destroys the audio quality. Why not just spend the same money on an actual CD, since you can then convert the audio to any format you wish, instead of buying use-restricted compressed audio? I don't see the logic in spending a dollar per song for poor quality, limited use, and not actually owning it. For 15 songs that's $15, which will get you a CD you can do whatever you want with. Why pay essentially the same price for what is, compared to CD, crap?

As far as Creative and Rio products being garbage, it's pretty clear some of you have no idea what you're talking about. Go brag to your friends about how any ad campaign can sucker you in, some of us don't care how trendy you are trying to be.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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$224 for the Nano...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa,Sep 13 2005, 10:39 AM
$224 for the Nano...
Educator's discount, huh?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Actually I work for a record label and we do business through itunes so we get discounts for that
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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As far as Creative and Rio products being garbage, it's pretty clear some of you have no idea what you're talking about.
They are garbage in comparison. They are big and they have horrid interfaces. Pay less, get less in this comparison.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by no_really,Sep 13 2005, 10:37 AM
Converting purchased compressed audio to wav and then back to mp3 or something is just stupid, IMHO, as it totally destroys the audio quality. Why not just spend the same money on an actual CD, since you can then convert the audio to any format you wish, instead of buying use-restricted compressed audio? I don't see the logic in spending a dollar per song for poor quality, limited use, and not actually owning it. For 15 songs that's $15, which will get you a CD you can do whatever you want with. Why pay essentially the same price for what is, compared to CD, crap?
iPods dont only play music bought off the music store. You can buy a cd at a store, and import it into iTunes as MP3 or AAC at any bitrate you want. I dont see how the no-WMA limitation is restricting since none of my music is ever in WMA form anyway.

Also the snag with the iTunes music store is that it is very easy, simple, effortless, and immediate. I agree with you, and I still buy CDs in their physical form, but I can see how if I wanted a cd right now, and I didn't want to waste the $3/gal gas and time to drive to the record store, the iTunes music store could be a very enticing place to buy. Plus it's not $15 for a 15-track cd since most of the cds are bought at discount if you buy the whole cd at once (15 tracks for $11 or $12 for example)

The only thing I dont like about it is how once you've bought a song you can't redownload it. If your harddrive crashes and you have no backup, that's money down the toilet. That's one of the main reasons I like to buy actual cds.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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I have downloaded about 10 albums off of UseNet in the last few days. Many different bitrates, and title formats, but the iPod adn iTunes see them all and play them all perfectly.
My only gripe is putting in a photo for the album. You can get the photo from Amazon.com but if you put the wrong one in (which you might do when doing it to 10 different albums) and try and change it you can't. You can have it show one of two photos but they will both be on there. And because iTunes writes the image into the .mp3 file you have to get the file again if you want to just put one on. Having two is completely practical and is actually nice for some but I wanted conformity so I had to redownload the file.

I have ripped 2 CDs with iTunes and both worked well and sounded great. Quick process too. It puts my downloaded .mp3s right on the iPod. I can't be certain but it doesn't seem like there is enough time going by for them to convert the format before putting them on the iPod.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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I ordered mine in white last night
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