Lion Owns Hunter! YES!
Originally Posted by WFO Racer,Dec 18 2006, 10:00 PM
Pretty sad shooting, a tri-pod and a scope yet he still missed. Cross firing after the attack and no trophy. WTF,nobody had a side arm? This ain't hunting just shooting fish in a barrel.
The lion should have been dropped with one shot one kill. Oh and fvck you hunting haters in the a$$ with zebra dlck. Unless you are vegetarians, do you have any idea how the meat or poultry gets slaughtered before it hits your table?
Shlt dies everyday in life, what a bunch of delicate flowers. Oh for the record, tonight's dinner was the last of the doves I shot this season, 30 birds of peace will soon be turds in the toilet.
The lion should have been dropped with one shot one kill. Oh and fvck you hunting haters in the a$$ with zebra dlck. Unless you are vegetarians, do you have any idea how the meat or poultry gets slaughtered before it hits your table?
Shlt dies everyday in life, what a bunch of delicate flowers. Oh for the record, tonight's dinner was the last of the doves I shot this season, 30 birds of peace will soon be turds in the toilet.
I wonder why they were hunting that lion? It's not that people are anti-hunting, its that it was probably a useless expedition to go 'kill a lion on camera' with some overpowered rifle (which makes the accomplishment useless and nothing special because of the lack of skill required... obviously), i doubt the lion needed to be killed
Originally Posted by WFO Racer,Dec 19 2006, 01:00 AM
Pretty sad shooting, a tri-pod and a scope yet he still missed. Cross firing after the attack and no trophy. WTF,nobody had a side arm? This ain't hunting just shooting fish in a barrel.
The lion should have been dropped with one shot one kill. Oh and fvck you hunting haters in the a$$ with zebra dlck. Unless you are vegetarians, do you have any idea how the meat or poultry gets slaughtered before it hits your table?
Shlt dies everyday in life, what a bunch of delicate flowers. Oh for the record, tonight's dinner was the last of the doves I shot this season, 30 birds of peace will soon be turds in the toilet.
The lion should have been dropped with one shot one kill. Oh and fvck you hunting haters in the a$$ with zebra dlck. Unless you are vegetarians, do you have any idea how the meat or poultry gets slaughtered before it hits your table?
Shlt dies everyday in life, what a bunch of delicate flowers. Oh for the record, tonight's dinner was the last of the doves I shot this season, 30 birds of peace will soon be turds in the toilet.
Hunting for food is one thing. last time I checked Lion was not on the usual list as food chain items. Trophy hunters suck ass, end of story.
This is not about how food gets to your table. Animals raised for the express purpose of eating is completely different. Lets raise a few million lions and start eating them as part of our diets and everything will be cool.
Until then, this activity is horrid. Want to go out and kill trophy animals and be considered badass???, do this:
Dont bathe for about two weeks, put on a loin cloth and arm yourself with a bowie knife. Then go out and stalk your trophy just like they would do to you. Jump on their back and take that animal down. Only then are you playing on a level field and, IMHO a badass deserving of your stuffed Lion trophy. Until you do something like that, you are a coward and idiot in my book.
Those guys should have been shredded.
This is not about how food gets to your table. Animals raised for the express purpose of eating is completely different. Lets raise a few million lions and start eating them as part of our diets and everything will be cool.
Until then, this activity is horrid. Want to go out and kill trophy animals and be considered badass???, do this:
Dont bathe for about two weeks, put on a loin cloth and arm yourself with a bowie knife. Then go out and stalk your trophy just like they would do to you. Jump on their back and take that animal down. Only then are you playing on a level field and, IMHO a badass deserving of your stuffed Lion trophy. Until you do something like that, you are a coward and idiot in my book.
Those guys should have been shredded.
Most hunting is done so lazily. High powered scoped weapons, sitting in a blind or tree stand, chasing with dogs and baiting. I would love to see a knife or even bow hunter actually go out and track an animal and get close enough to fall an animal on its own terms.
That person I would respect.
That person I would respect.
Originally Posted by WFO Racer,Dec 19 2006, 01:00 AM
Pretty sad shooting, a tri-pod and a scope yet he still missed. Cross firing after the attack and no trophy. WTF,nobody had a side arm? This ain't hunting just shooting fish in a barrel.
The lion should have been dropped with one shot one kill. Oh and fvck you hunting haters in the a$$ with zebra dlck. Unless you are vegetarians, do you have any idea how the meat or poultry gets slaughtered before it hits your table?
Shlt dies everyday in life, what a bunch of delicate flowers. Oh for the record, tonight's dinner was the last of the doves I shot this season, 30 birds of peace will soon be turds in the toilet.
The lion should have been dropped with one shot one kill. Oh and fvck you hunting haters in the a$$ with zebra dlck. Unless you are vegetarians, do you have any idea how the meat or poultry gets slaughtered before it hits your table?
Shlt dies everyday in life, what a bunch of delicate flowers. Oh for the record, tonight's dinner was the last of the doves I shot this season, 30 birds of peace will soon be turds in the toilet.
You are absolutely right. Things do die every day. The difference here is that it is not done according to the natural order of life. If humans did not acheive machanization we would be very low on the food chain.
Those "hunters" if dropped off in the wilderness without their tools would not last very long. They almost did not make it even WITH all the bells and whistles so what does that say?
Sure, the fact we have evolved the way we did puts on the top of the "food chain" but, it does not mean it is right to do what they did.
Wow, I guess I had a lot to say on this subject.
I'm certainly not going to defend Mr. WFO, but let's be realistic. If humans were unable to do the things they can do, yeah, they wouldn't have lasted very long. If lions didn't have thier teeth and claws, they would die rather quickly as well.
How long would you last yourself, dropped into a wilderness with nothing but the clothes on your back?
Judging what those shooters did, right or wrong, requires more information than was contained in that short video. And calling them "hunters," and using that video to make any kind of point about hunters in general is amazingly ignorant and probably best described as "stupid."
For those who've never really hunted any large animal before, the idea of a "one shot kill" is pretty much not going to happen very often. Wild animals are resilient creatures, and will keep on running or charging after crippling wounds. Sure, you can stand 1/4 mile away and take down an elk or wild sheep with a powerful rifle, powerful scope, a tripod, and most importantly a well-placed shot. Some call that hunting, some call it not very fun, or "cheating." However, you typically walk all day long, up and down mountains and steep hillsides, for one shot all week.
You can know your prey, know your territory, and make every effort to position yourself along a game trail, positioned out of sight of the prey, and ideally, downwind. Then you wait for an animal to walk down the trail. This is commonly considered the best way to not use your weapon lol. Animals don't tend to go blindly running down the same track multiple times a day. If spooked, they really don't tend to run downwind.
Some people identify the terrain features that are most likely to harbor game, and after posting a shooter or two at strategic vantage points, proceed to "drive," or walk through the area. Of course, this "terrain feature" typically is a very dense thicket, often swampy, and is certainly not easy going. Occasionally one has the opportunity to drive a farm field with standing crops. This can work, but again, hardly the easiest, and as farm fields are often on the large side, and animals can easily escape, even without being seen. Game animals aren't dumb. They are far better equipped to survive in their environment than humans, and know damn well how to evade hunters. But even they make mistakes.
The idea that "hunting" is somehow a one-sided affair giving the armed human all the advantages is based on ignorance and fantasy. It certainly isn't easy, it certainly isn't a sport for the bloodthirsty and impatient, and it breeds appreciation, respect, and understanding of nature. It is a tradition as old as humanity, and as necessary as farming. It is every much a "natural" way for an animal to die as having its neck broken by a tiger or its throat choked by a lion.
Watching that video, one should be able to see that even a group of well-armed humans are barely a match for the lion. That wasn't much for hunting, and I would not be too proud if I was one of those shooters, but the end of the video showed how humans behave when they've narrowly escaped a grisly death at the hands of their prey. That video could easily be showing a group of people who paid quite a bit of money to help a village eliminate a lion that preyed on livestock and threatened the village. The fencing shown would no sooner stop a lion than a screen door. It might have been penned in, but most likely because that's where it killed its last meal. Hence, the death sentence.
How long would you last yourself, dropped into a wilderness with nothing but the clothes on your back?
Judging what those shooters did, right or wrong, requires more information than was contained in that short video. And calling them "hunters," and using that video to make any kind of point about hunters in general is amazingly ignorant and probably best described as "stupid."
For those who've never really hunted any large animal before, the idea of a "one shot kill" is pretty much not going to happen very often. Wild animals are resilient creatures, and will keep on running or charging after crippling wounds. Sure, you can stand 1/4 mile away and take down an elk or wild sheep with a powerful rifle, powerful scope, a tripod, and most importantly a well-placed shot. Some call that hunting, some call it not very fun, or "cheating." However, you typically walk all day long, up and down mountains and steep hillsides, for one shot all week.
You can know your prey, know your territory, and make every effort to position yourself along a game trail, positioned out of sight of the prey, and ideally, downwind. Then you wait for an animal to walk down the trail. This is commonly considered the best way to not use your weapon lol. Animals don't tend to go blindly running down the same track multiple times a day. If spooked, they really don't tend to run downwind.
Some people identify the terrain features that are most likely to harbor game, and after posting a shooter or two at strategic vantage points, proceed to "drive," or walk through the area. Of course, this "terrain feature" typically is a very dense thicket, often swampy, and is certainly not easy going. Occasionally one has the opportunity to drive a farm field with standing crops. This can work, but again, hardly the easiest, and as farm fields are often on the large side, and animals can easily escape, even without being seen. Game animals aren't dumb. They are far better equipped to survive in their environment than humans, and know damn well how to evade hunters. But even they make mistakes.
The idea that "hunting" is somehow a one-sided affair giving the armed human all the advantages is based on ignorance and fantasy. It certainly isn't easy, it certainly isn't a sport for the bloodthirsty and impatient, and it breeds appreciation, respect, and understanding of nature. It is a tradition as old as humanity, and as necessary as farming. It is every much a "natural" way for an animal to die as having its neck broken by a tiger or its throat choked by a lion.
Watching that video, one should be able to see that even a group of well-armed humans are barely a match for the lion. That wasn't much for hunting, and I would not be too proud if I was one of those shooters, but the end of the video showed how humans behave when they've narrowly escaped a grisly death at the hands of their prey. That video could easily be showing a group of people who paid quite a bit of money to help a village eliminate a lion that preyed on livestock and threatened the village. The fencing shown would no sooner stop a lion than a screen door. It might have been penned in, but most likely because that's where it killed its last meal. Hence, the death sentence.
I like the version of hunting I see on TV. Once I seen these guys hide in a fricken tent up in a tree all day waiting for dear to walk by an automatic feeder they set up some days ago. When one came by the great white hunters took aim and killed the dear. Mind aswell shoot at stationary targets if you call that hunting.
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