First of all no really I don't really care if you don't agree that hunting from a stand is not really hunting . Stalking your prey requires skill, sitting in a stand only requires you to shoot from a elevated position . I have hunted for many years, we have hunted anything from doves to Alaskan bear and we have never even taken a dump without a side arm with us at all times. You never know who or what is out there. These guys are hunters and had one gun between 8 of them, WTF ? I stand by my previous point regardless of who started what he still dropped them and nobody took him out, afterall you said it, they had at least one gun . They were not completely un-armed. Some already said it before , the picked the wrong guy to fvck with.

 

Man I'm tired and so my thoughts are coming inbetween gaps. LAST COMMENTS...hahaa

So IF they fired on him first, as he says, is there any mention of them trying to find the bullet from one of the victims (analyze the angle the bullet traveled, etc to help determine if Vang's story is legit)? Was there a firefight or was Vang the only one shooting (as is implyed)? If the victims say they never fired but they found a bullet in the area Vang specifies, this might be easier to piece together. If not, then we need someone to confess!!

 

Alright last one for tonight....

About Vang, it was odd that after the shootings, he runs into the two hunters and just tells them he is lost and accepts a ride. Either he was deep in thought and wanted to go to the police after he got to his car or he was just chill and didn't think anything of what he did and planned to just walk away from it all, which is VERY strange. If the last part is true, it's definitely a sign of an unbalanced individual. I guess we'll find out more as this goes on...

 

startribune.com and local news are my sources. I worked summers in that area, and live a few hours away, and St. Paul (where the shooter lives) is right next door. A guy was shot a few years ago while deer hunting in an area to the south of the current shootings, where Vang was also hunting that year. Vang's neighbors at a property in northern MN have had several problems with him on opening weekends of deer season. A few years ago, Vang's wife called police when he held her at gunpoint, but she declined to press charges in the end. The police have been called to his house on more than one occasion for domestic disturbance.

Apparently, a guy was going out in the woods, and saw someone in a stand. He radio'd back to the cabin to ask who was out there, and they said no-one. A few people came out on ATVs to see, and it seems that was when the shooting started. Someone radio'd back to the cabin that they were shot and needed help, so more people went out there. At some point, someone came out carrying a gun, but was shot. There was only one gun found at the scene (not Vang's), and Vang was uninjured. People around here don't carry a gun to the bathroom in the woods - it is generally accepted that the worst thing out there is more scared of you than you are of it (black bears, wolves, coyotes, squirrels). We don't automatically expect that someone with a gun is a danger during hunting season.

I've crouched in a ditch while bullets flew overhead from some unwitting shooter, and the last thing on my mind was killing them. Sometimes people shoot when they shouldn't, and having bullets fly by is no reason to kill everyone you can see. Mistakes happen, and as long as no-one gets hurt, no harm, no foul. This guy confessed to shooting unarmed people in the back. The only question left is what to do with him, not whether he murdered 6 people in cold blood.

 

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So your take is just a bunch of crap you made up in your head that has nothing to do with anything said by either the victims or the suspect. You've been watching too much CSI. Oh, and the "demographics" you talk about are fraudulent as well, nicely done.