I would like to start a thread for information/advice on picking up women. If anyone wants to share past experiances/theories/thoughts... please feel free to do so.

Since I'm posting this, I'll share the story that got me to posting it. Tonight, I was at a pool place playing pool with my friend. Two very hot girls, one blonde, one brunette, were sitting alone on a table and drinking whatever. I liked the brunette and noticed her huge breasts. After a little bit of debate with my friend about if they were real or not, I said that if I beat him the game we were playing, then I'd go and ask her. Needless to say, I beat him (after he was trying very hard not to lose), immediately I went up to the table and interrupted them (they were having a conversation at the time).

Me: Excuse me (this got her attention), can I ask you a question?
*at this point she looks over to her friend and smiles, then turns towards me*
Her: Sure
Me: Are those real?
Her: Excuse me?
Me: Are your boobs real?
*Kind of staring at them*
Her: Yes, they're real. But that's really rude!
Me: Okay, thanks.
*at this point I walked away*

By the time I told my friend what happened, I see her coming towards our pool table.

Me (to my friend): Oh shit.

Her: Hey, what's your name.
*told her my name*
Me: How about you?
Her: Gina, nice to meet you.
Her: Can me and my friend come play some pool with you guys?
Me: Only if you're good!
*she busts out laughing*
*goes and gets her friend*

Her friend: Hey, that was a really weird way to approach my friend.
Me: I know. I'm like that though. Sorry, I didn't get your name?
Her friend: I'm Sarah. I'll just call ya "Crazy".
Me: Haha , sounds good!

*I introduce my friend to them*

*We start playing, me and Gina, versus Sarah and my friend*

*Gina turned out to be a pretty good pool player, Sarah sucked.*
*I gave both of them some pointers.*

Here's the kicker... Gina is in my bed right now, while I'm downstairs. She's been sleeping for the last hour or so, very exhausted.

I thank the gods my friend met me up at the pool place with his own car!!!

Turns out Sarah didn't really like him.

Also turns out Gina's tits are the best I've ever seen, and definately REAL! I didn't know such size and shape could exist on a model looking skinny girl. She's a perfect 5'9, 115 pounds (10 of which is boobs). Best sex I've had in a long time.

Would take some pictures of her in my bed right now, but I actually like this girl a lot. Sorry. Flame suit on and shields fully operational.

Now to my original intentions... Anyone with stories, advice, questions, whatever... FEEL FREE TO POST RIGHT HERE.

If, and ONLY IF, you guys want, then I'd be happy to post a lot more on the topic...

I'll say one last thing though::: COCKY AND FUNNY gets AMAZING results. Shock them, make them feel weird, leave them asking questions, wondering why you did or said something, and THEY'LL LOVE YOU FOR IT.

Eagerly awaiting stories, questions, advice, pointers, comments... anything

 

Fag, you meet the girl and plow her on the first night and you think like this girl. Quit being ghey and post pics.

- nice pull though

 

I'm a hater, I hate your game and I hate your pimpin' lines
j/k

good stuff!!

 

You got to love it, a friend of mine takes it one step further he will meet them, be sweet, then immediately start dissing them, he has a real knack for bringing them back in line from the point that he's dissed the sh@# out of them. The funny thing is, by the end of the night they love him. Stop being a fag and take some pictures for the homies.

 

Yep. Diss them at first, show them a little bit of a nice side if they're interested later on, but still don't ever make them feel like they're in control, and NEVER, NEVER BE A WUSS.

 

Ditch "sorry" from your vocabulary

 

Also. Once you're going out with a girl/taking her out on a date... NEVER say you don't know where to go, or don't care, or that she can pick a place. If she insists to pick a place, then fine, but if she doesn't, when she asks you where you're going, don't go and say "I don't know, where do you want to go". Be decisive, TELL HER where you're taking her, and stick with it.

 

^ In otherwords be a man!

 

***QUESTION***

WOW! yeah, that's the best word i can describe
your techniques with. I've been in situations
where i can't help but smile, or even burst out
laughing when i see the magic work... keeping a
straight face can be hard just because i never
thought it would work so well. anyway, to the
point: I've been using the 'cocky/funny/ you can't
get what you want' on this girl. well it was
working well, but one instance she was
discouraged, and i wasn't sure what to do. i felt
bad, like i broke her or something... i was hoping
you could help me with a line that would give her,
or any other girl alike, a good feeling after they
turn around and feel bad. i wanted to make sure
and not turn into 'PUSSYMAN' to make her feel
better. rather, something to encourage her to
pursue me, and give her the 'it'll be worth your
while impression.' Your advice seems to have
covered everything but this, or i just missed
something. help make it clear. I appreciate the
time you put into saving our lives. I think i was
on the verge of wasting a lifetime before i was
introduced to your work.




>>>ANSWER:
One of the things you need to watch for when
you're learning to be cocky+funny is GOING TOO
FAR.

I've seen guys get a little too cocky, while
forgetting that FUNNY is a key component of the
formula... and then winding up turning a woman
off.

I've done it myself a few times...

Just remember, if you wind up coming across as
arrogant and hurting a woman's feelings, you need
to change the frame of what's going on.

Try saying:

"Lighten up... what, you don't have a sense of
humor?"

This tells the woman you're talking to that it
was a joke without you turning into a wussy in her
eyes.

Then add more humor.

Women are very adaptable, and if you take
things too far, just remember to diffuse the
situation quickly and learn from it. Once she sees
that you were just busting on her, she'll most
likely bounce right back.

Unfortunately, too many guys will turn into
insta-wuss and start apologizing. Don't do that!

 

A HUGE MISTAKE YOU'RE PROBABLY MAKING RIGHT NOW
WHEN YOU APPROACH WOMEN

Let me ask you something...

When you approach or start talking to a woman
that you're "interested" in, what is your attitude
toward her? How do you treat her? What are you
THINKING ABOUT?

Do you start the interaction by trying to
figure out if she's single?

Do you assume that she probably has a boyfriend
and look for hints that she doesn't?

Do you try to pretend like you're not
interested in her "in that way" and instead try to
be casual about it until you get signals from her?

Do you even THINK about your strategy for how
to talk to a woman at all?

MOST GUYS ARE UNAWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING

Most of us guys are running around doing things
that we're not even AWARE OF. Or if we are aware
of what we're DOING, we're NOT aware of what OTHER
people (particularly women) think of our
behaviors.

Also, most of us guys allow others to control
MOST or even All of how we act. Now, we won't
ADMIT that we try to do or say whatever we think
will please a woman, and we won't ADMIT that we're
even mentally anticipating what she's going to
think and acting on it... but it's happening.

And it's happening ALL THE TIME.

In fact, if most of us could just get a
realistic look at how much we're trying to read
women's minds and act in a way that pleases women,
we'd BITCH-SLAP ourselves silly and we'd mentally
yell to ourselves "HEY, WAKE UP!".

Think about the following scenario:

You're out at a bar, and you start talking to
an attractive young woman while trying to order a
drink. And let's even say that she starts the
conversation by commenting on how busy it is and
how many people are in line for a drink.

You're thinking to yourself "I wonder if she
has a boyfriend... I wonder if she's here with
someone... I wonder how old she is and if she'd
like a guy my age... I wonder if I should buy her
a drink so she'll feel obligated to talk to me and
I can keep her attention... I wonder if I should
just wait and talk to her later..."

Then, you remember that you've been reading my
newsletters and my eBook... and learning from my
Advanced Dating Techniques Series... and you
decide to use some of your new techniques.

So you say "Hey, do me a favor. I'll let you go
in front of me if you order my drink for me. All
the bar tenders are guys, and they'll give you
more attention than they'll give me, OK? I don't
usually use women just for their bodies this early
on in the relationship, but in this case I'm going
to make an exception".

She laughs.

You think you're on a roll.

You then say "But I'm not going to let you pay
for it, OK? I don't want you thinking that I'm
easy and that I'll give you my number or come home
with you just because you paid for my drink".

At this point, she turns around and gives you
the "You're a loser" look, and walks away.

Now let's think for a moment about what could
be going on here...

-She might be married. -She might be in a bad
mood. -She might be a lesbian (not all that bad,
actually). -She might be offended. -She might be
emotionally unstable. -She might have misheard
what you said. -She might have gotten nervous. -
She might have thought you were ugly.

...or the possibility exists that the technique
you used might have been horrible.

But what do MOST guys typically do in a
situation like this one?

Most guys typically let their emotions take
over, and they think "Well that stuff doesn't
work", and they STOP even trying Cocky & Funny
humor.

WHAT A MISTAKE THIS IS!

A lot of guys will even try something and have
it WORK for them, then have it NOT WORK just ONCE
and quit using it because they stop believing in
it.

This is a HORRIBLE mistake.

Let me try to say this all a different way...

Out of a random sample of 100 beautiful women,
you'd probably find that only 20 of them (or so)
are:

-Single -Emotionally Stable -Able to carry on an
interesting conversation -Not stuck up -Not psycho

This is just an estimate from my own personal
experience, but I think you get the point.

Now, here's the important part of this
concept...

Let's say that you started talking to all of
these 100 women, one after the other, and you had
to use the same basic attitude and opening with
each of them.

What would you do?

If you treated all of them like they were
probably NOT single, interesting, stable, etc.
(which is the case), then you'd probably scare off
the single ones who were your targets, because
they'd think you were acting strange.

For instance, let's say you started a
conversation with a very attractive woman in her
mid twenties, who was open-minded, funny, and
wasn't concerned with how old the men she dated
were (there are a lot of women out there like
this... I know this for a fact). But let's say
that you were "playing it cool", not saying
anything that might offend or appear "too
forward", and generally treating her like she was
probably married or had a boyfriend. You'd
probably be trying to figure out if she was
single, not really paying attention to what you
were saying, and you might finish up by saying
"So, can I take you out to dinner sometime?"

And what is this hot, smart, desirable woman
thinking while you're acting like a dork? Right...
she's thinking that you're a dork. Duh.

Now, let's take the flip side.

Stay with me here.

Let's say that you treated ALL of the 100
attractive women like they were AVAILABLE, smart,
interesting, etc.

What would happen?

Well, you'd probably start flirting with them
all right from the beginning, or you'd communicate
very quickly that you weren't just another
friendly guy who wanted to talk about the weather.

And what would happen?

Well, as you can imagine, a lot of the women
who were either unavailable or unable to have a
normal conversation would "reject" you. They just
wouldn't be interested. Their minds would be
closed to the possibility of continuing the
relationship with you, and they would end the
conversation with you in one way or another.

Now, let's go TOTALLY out into space, and
imagine that you were a LAB RAT, and that you had
a bar that you could press. And let's say that 80%
of the time when you pressed it you got shocked,
and 20% of the time you got a treat.

How long would you keep pressing the bar?

And keep in mind that this is a random system.

You can't line up all the shocks (or all the
rejections from women, in the non-rat experiment
that most men live in day-to-day).

You might get 7 shocks in a row at first.

Or you might get 1 treat, then 5 shocks.

Well, for most men, the THOUGHT of being
"rejected" by a woman is worse than a shock for a
lab rat.

So what do we do?

We don't even try.

And we miss the opportunities with all of those
wonderful, single, available women who are out
looking for a man who has the balls to find them.

So what's the solution?

The solution is to use a little technique
called behaving AS IF she's single, available, and
interesting.

You must learn to overcome your initial self-
doubt and your doubts about a woman, and behave
AS IF every woman you start talking to is SINGLE
and AS IF she's going to be THE ONE, MOST
INTERESTING AND WONDERFUL WOMAN EVER.

You must do the things that will attract THAT
woman, and forget about the rest.

And you must learn to NOT take the things that
happen in between meeting the wonderful ones
PERSONALLY.

Gary Halbert, one of the top marketing geniuses
in the world, talks about this principle.

He basically says that out of 100 people
reading your ad or seeing your commercial, maybe
ONE of them is someone who would buy your product
anyway.

SO QUIT TALKING TO ALL OF THE 100 PEOPLE, AND
ONLY TALK TO THE ONE!

In his words: "Don't worry about the DOGS,
concentrate on selling the FOXES".

I like the metaphor.

Talk to the women you meet AS IF they're
single, open, interesting, and wonderful. And
don't worry about the ones that don't turn out to
actually BE single, open, interesting, available,
and wonderful!

Use the things you're learning from me, and
KEEP USING THEM... even if they don't work
sometimes. There are all kinds of reasons why
women aren't interested... or stop being
interested... or whatever.

That doesn't mean that you should stop doing
what works!

...which leads me to my next point.

When you first start talking to a woman, your
BELIEFS about women and dating are CRITICAL.

If you don't know how to use your BODY LANGUAGE
and other communication to INSTANTLY show her that
you're a sexually aware, confident man, then
you'll probably be overlooked and mentally
discounted within SECONDS.

Of course, in order to PROJECT the correct
beliefs that are attractive to women, you must
KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, and UNDERSTAND THEM.

In other words, you can't just "fake" them. You
actually have to have a DEEP understanding of how
women think, and what makes them feel a POWERFUL,
gut-level emotional ATTRACTION for a man.

It's taken me YEARS to figure out this critical
point.

I used to try all kinds of techniques to meet
women.

But when it came down to it, no matter how well
the techniques worked, the women always seemed to
slip away at one point or another, and lose their
interest quickly.

This was because I didn't GET IT.

So one of the things that I try to teach guys
is how to GET IT, and how to show women that they
GET IT.

But "getting it" isn't as easy as it sounds.

You can't learn to be a Black Belt in a martial
art by learning a few techniques. It takes a
DEEPER, more profound understanding.

And you can't learn how to be super-successful
with women by learning a few pick up lines.

It just won't happen that way!