easy killer....I'm followin' ya...........


your comment <------ paints a funny picture

 

That's the point you're in the know, these guys aren't. They need our help and we all could use a pointer or two. I used to watch myself while talking to a woman and make notes of what and when I did or said something that didn't go over smoothly so I could correct my behaviour. i wish i had someone to shadow me and evaluate the good and bad. That's what people in the know have to do to help the poor too nice guy out. We're not talking about just getting a chick into bed. We're talking about putting you best foot forward. Everyone wants to be on "there best behaviour" when interacting with someone that they like, however some don't realize that they aren't. Never con someone. They don't need to know your whole lifes tragic story within the first 15 minutes of meeting them and telling a woman that your in love with them right out of the cage is crazy. It's never worth lying, that person needs to know everything about you so they can make an informed descision if your getting married but they don't need to know everything on the first couple of dates. As the relationship develops and trust/respect/admiration grows (otherwise known as love) those things should some out at a reasonable pace. I'm against saying whatever you have to to get in a girls panties. That's immature and shallow and in the end never satisfies.

Crotch grabbing is fine if you got the skills but share the knowledge you might be looking for fun now and the right one later but you can't land them all and some we wouldn't want to. Give someone else the tools to get a chance, if your good they won't be compitition for you when you find the right one.

 

but what I don't understand is you seem very witty (sorta j/k ) and not very shy.....is this internet courage or something? why not simply apply it into life?

 

Who me? I'm gold on the scene. I rarely shudder, not that I don't get nervous from time to time, but i never let them see me sweat. The only reason why i read those pointers was to improve my confidence and get the ball rolling. I was never really in the dateing scene. I married my girlfriend right after high school. Then at 26 I was thrown into the sea, Shit i had no clue what to do. I did it anyways because what did i have to loose. Like i said i never once struck out when asking for a number, I contribute that to what I learned, how to tell when she is interested and when to walk away. Never take it personally, she's not into your type it aint no big deal but rather than blindly ask I would get her talking first to find out if she was crazy (at least at first typically youfind that out on the third date) and if I got a positive vibe I always went for it. Sometimes I did it even when I wasn't really interested because I needed to grab my balls and practice. Besides that maybe after a date I'd have a better impression. I never did it to hurt. 13 women in 140 days. If you get the brush off move on and don't take it personally guys.

 

Oh here's the greatest way I found to ask for the phone number "line" (not that its BS you should really feel this way).

"It was great talking to you, you seem like a very interesting person, I'd like to get to know you better. Can I get your number"

Short direct compliment that gets to the bottom line quickly. Wow he finds me interesting and wants to get to know me better. That's great.
100% on base percentage with that one, but be reasonably sure she's interested in you don't just blindly throw it out after a woman keeps rolling her eyes at you.

I highly recommend saying that in front of her friends if they are there. That takes balls and it'll give you points on her confidence scale.

Even if she's not interested she'll think your a classy guy, with balls. If she says no for whatever reason throw out something liek this well since your obviously such an interesting person I'm sure your friends are too, know any single ones or do you have a sister?

 

I did take some psych courses in my undergrad, but it wasn't my major and I'm not going to pretend I've the knowledge to explain human dating behaviours
Like I said, I don't doubt it works on other women, but it doesn't impress me personally.
Nice does not indicate 'desperate' to me, rather there's a good chance I'll be treated respectfully. But that's just me - maybe I'm a freak or something! I certainly won't speak for every female, since I'm well aware there are many women who believe they deserve to be treated poorly.

So of course I had to check out askmen.com I agree with pretty much all the advice I read, however "the system" sounds a bit cult-ish!

 

I agree with you 100%...

My greatest/maybe the easiest most successful line to get a number goes something like this....


In the middle of a conversation (no matter what), I would most likely cut the girl off, tell her that I need to RUN and that I enjoyed talking to her and would like to continue our conversation another time. Then ask for her number to do so. With this method, I know for a fact if the girl enjoyed having a conversation if I get a number. If not, I don't really want that girls number anywas.

Remember... we have NOTHING to lose. I know this might sound weird, but there are MILLIONS of women out there. Something like what I just explained is the fastest/easiest way to weed out the ones that wouldn't work for you.




Another point I would like to make... EYE CONTACT, EYE CONTACT, EYE CONTACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMILE, SMILE, SMILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The first things that a girl notices about you... are your smile and your eyes. If you seem nervous for even one milisecond... they'll know, and thats a MAJOR turnoff for them. Think of it as not dealing with human beings, but with dogs... THEY SENSE FEAR.


Something I've noticed... when you first meet a girl, JUST GET THE NUMBER & GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE. DON'T RUIN IT BY STICKING AROUND... BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO. Think of it as like a door to door salesman, as soon as the deal is done, they're out of there... As soon as you make the "sale"... RUN.


Tell ya what guys, this:::::: is the look you all should put on when trying to attract a woman. It's pretty much self explanatory!!!

 

Its good for guys without a clue. You wouldn't particularly find it attractive if some guy came up with you that looked defeted and said something like well heres my business card I know I'm hideously ugly bald and fat. Well guy do that a lot. You would probably prefer a man that isn't drooling over you telling you that your absoulutly gorgous and the stars are in your eyes, I love you marry me and have my babies. That's the nice guy thing I'm talking about. we should all be gentleman, polite and curtious and of course nice but not "too nice" so as to give the impresion of being desprit or in otherwords trying too hard. I'm sure you've meet a few of these guys in your day. Also you don't want a guy to be an ass and talk about sex and all handsy. Well many guys will do one or the other because no one has told them keep your hands to yourself, listen and find out who she is and stop acting like a hypermacho man or a big fat whimp. My guess is that you want a man to act like a man not a push over drolling slob waiting to do whatever he can for you in an attempt to impress you. If women smell that they tend to run away. Now as to rather or not that backhanded compliment works on you well you'd have to hear it to know. This is what typically happens. That color nail polish is way bright, god I've never seen that color, I couldn't imagine it looking good on anyone but on you with your hands wow its fantastic. Hum... What do you think?

For obviouse reasons. Well lets say I a guy likes his women with some meat on their bones. You don't want to say my your fat but I like women like that.... You don't put them down. the are those real comment is pushing it but to follow with something like wow they look so perfect I'm shocked. Well i'd stay away from that part of the body and comment on something a little less sexual. Hands, shoes (not feet they will think your a freak)

 

Where are you located?

 

PA, Delaware Valley. Limerick.

Dude your "Unfortunatly, I got to go" statement is spot on!

That's a line right from the doc.

I've used the
"my friends are here and I feel like I'm being rude to them...." Excelent!