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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vinsanity,Aug 6 2006, 11:54 AM
I've always argued that speed limits and speeding tickets "criminalizes" perfectly law-abiding citizens and causes contempt for law enforcement. The last thing they need is a potentially dangerous incentive program like this to enhance that effect.
You shouldn't see speeding tickets as acts which would "criminalize" law-abiding citizens because most are just moving violations which isn't a crime, so relax. Also gifts are given to law enforcement officers all the time in the form of plaques, pen sets, scholarships, etc, I think the value exceed $10
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kntrider,Aug 4 2006, 11:26 AM
fair enough, but what if they just start pulling over just for small things that they usually let go.

front plate
going 5mph over
exhaust being too loud
headlights being to bright (has happened to me before)
Are those things against the law?

Thought so


Just because you normally don't get ticketed doesn't mean they aren't illegal
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCS2,Aug 4 2006, 03:05 PM
Wrong, if you were committing an infraction why would it get thrown out?
Bribery. Its an incentive to give tickets that otherwise would not be given. The dude even said that in the article.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BBY2KS2K,Aug 6 2006, 03:51 AM
As someone who works in Law Enforcement, I don't see anything wrong with rewarding officers for doing good work. I personally wouldn't do it because of public perception, but that's just me. Plus $10 isn't exactly a huge prize either considering they are probably receiving some type of holiday incentive pay for working on the 4th of July. If you don't like it, than don't exceed the speed limit and you should be fine.

To vinsanity: Our job can be shitty at times, but in my experience, most people who work in this career field enjoy it.
So its alright if I give you some cash and tell you to find something to arrest Mr. Smith on, because I don't like him? I don't think so. The incentive was created to encourage them "for putting in extra effort". Not to do the right thing, but to encorage them to find something to pull anyone over for. If you're an officer you know that you could find a reason to pull any person over that drives at any time.

Nothing is worse than corupt law enforment. Nothing. I'd rather sit next to a pediphile.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCS2,Aug 7 2006, 09:25 AM
You shouldn't see speeding tickets as acts which would "criminalize" law-abiding citizens because most are just moving violations which isn't a crime, so relax. Also gifts are given to law enforcement officers all the time in the form of plaques, pen sets, scholarships, etc, I think the value exceed $10
X 1000

Those are not direct bribes for future arrest/citations but acknowledgement of past performance.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Aug 7 2006, 01:08 PM
Bribery. Its an incentive to give tickets that otherwise would not be given. The dude even said that in the article.
You have no Clue to what Bribery is.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Oh goodie, I get a chance to rant and rave!!!

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1. Anyone wishing to acquire or sustain a motor vehicle license should be required to pass a new written and driving test annually. Minimum passing score is 100% on both.
2. Anyone wishing to acquire or sustain a motor vehicle license should be required to pay a $500 annual fee for the privilege of said license.
3. The current set of motor vehicle laws should be revised.
4. The new set of motor vehicle laws will allow for exceptions to be made depending on the circumstances.
5. All citations require a court appearance by both the citizen, and the issuing officer.
6. All citations require the issuing officer to prove that the citizen went beyond the exceptions of the law under the circumstances.
7. Negotiations are not possible, if you are found guilty of the infraction, you will be punished accordingly.



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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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^^^ How about trial by jury? That would screw the system in a hurry. Especially if the jury was allowed to hear about jury nullification, which of course is a big no-no in this supposedly free country.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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6. So you want to give me a ticket? Great, it's my word against yours; prove to me that I was doing something wrong. Better yet, prove it to the judge, and then let him hear my side of the story.

I'm sure the radar gun is all the proof he needs. The main reason for traffic court is for clarification of errors.

for example I was written a ticket for 40 in a 30. too bad the speedlimit was 40mph. took pictures of the signs, got the ticket dropped. If you were simply speeding, then you pay the ticket.

btw 150mph is still too fast, even if the the road is deserted. it is very hard to judge speed and distance when going that fast. what if someone wants to merge into traffic and sees you in the distance? looks like he'll have plenty of time, but you'd be on him quicker than a fly on poo.


i do agree with making the licensing tests yearly and more strict. I have seen WAY too many accidents involving old people that could have been avoided with mandatory testing. same with young people. I am all for graduated licenses.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCS2,Aug 7 2006, 04:14 PM
You have no Clue to what Bribery is.
bribery

n : the practice of offering something (usually money) in order to gain an illicit advantage

bribe ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brb)
n.
Something, such as money or a favor, offered or given to a person in a position of trust to influence that person's views or conduct.
Something serving to influence or persuade.

Sounds like a text book example.
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