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Old May 17, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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very sad...
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Old May 17, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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horrific.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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That poor little girl lost her chance to grow up. Sad!
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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What worries me is how the officers would have gotten away with their BS cover-up lies if there wouldn't have been footage of the event... How often do the police get away with lies and cover-ups where recordings and footage are not taken???
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by YoZUpZ,May 17 2010, 10:10 PM
What worries me is how the officers would have gotten away with their BS cover-up lies if there wouldn't have been footage of the event... How often do the police get away with lies and cover-ups where recordings and footage are not taken???
All the time. Think about all the cases where patrol car footage comes out only very late in the case. In every single one of those cases, the police knew about the footage, sat on the footage, and willfully lied about the existence footage either implicitly or directly in order to keep it out of evidence. Cops routinely perjure themselves because they often have a stronger devotion to their own than to the law.

That said, they have a tough job, there are going to be screw ups, and going on a witch hunt won't improve anything. Still, felons should not be law enforcement officers. An accident in the heat of the moment is an entirely different thing than deliberate perjury. Then you've got the separate issue of using flash-bang grenades. Acceptable use of force? That's for Detroit to determine.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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inb4kyushin!
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Old May 18, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Not in before the kyushin, is this kinda shit acceptable?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Malloric,May 18 2010, 07:40 AM
All the time. Think about all the cases where patrol car footage comes out only very late in the case. In every single one of those cases, the police knew about the footage, sat on the footage, and willfully lied about the existence footage either implicitly or directly in order to keep it out of evidence. Cops routinely perjure themselves because they often have a stronger devotion to their own than to the law.

That said, they have a tough job, there are going to be screw ups, and going on a witch hunt won't improve anything. Still, felons should not be law enforcement officers. An accident in the heat of the moment is an entirely different thing than deliberate perjury. Then you've got the separate issue of using flash-bang grenades. Acceptable use of force? That's for Detroit to determine.
Pretty good all-around post.


I am NOT condoning what the police did, just offering a different point of view:

The police didn't throw a flash grenade into a kindergarden class, they went to the location where a suspected murderer was believed to be hiding. Going on visual profiling alone, look at how the people in the image are dressed and presenting themselves. Their outward appearance and clothing matches that of many questionable/criminal types. I greyed out the peoples' skin so there's no confusion about what I'm pointing out, and I think it's interesting to remove that as a factor here, for this purpose.




My point in bringing this up, is that people consort with questionable characters, known criminals, and other individuals who could be hazardous the the safety of themselves and their families. They present themselves with their cothing and appearance in a certain manner. When something happens to their family, they're shocked!

I can tell you one thing; my house, nor the homes of anyone in my family would ever be confused for one housing a suspected murderer. A quick scan of the background of anyone living at any of my family's homes would result in nothing that indicates the remote possibility of such a thing.

If you don't want to be perceived as being a low-life or gang-banging type, stay away from those that do, and those that even project the image.

Again, don't miss my point, I'm putting something out there for additional discussion.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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so i read the article.

ok, so the police story is there was a fight involving the grandmother.. a weapon was 'accidentally' discharged... and this killed the girl.

the other side of the story is that an officer fired into the home from outside, for whatever reason, immediately after throwing the grenade. this then could be the cause of the girl's death.

there is camera footage, everyone knows it... the truth will come out once that is aired for everyone. if it's the latter case, then at the *very least* there'll be an enormous wrongful death suit and hopefully the cop will get charged with something. you don't just open fire into a house without even having a legitimate target.
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