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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Does anyone else find it strange that people and the media get this irate about some chickens getting killed in this manner (I agree that it was wrong and extremely cruel) but don't really say anything about the numerous abortions that happen daily?
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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^that's really a totally different issue. taking a life of a living thing is one thing, but torturing that same living thing is something else. i'm not condoning that it is okay for anyone to take the life of any living thing, but if you were to be executed, would you rather that it happened quickly, or would you rather be tortured first??
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yellafeva,Jul 21 2004, 04:57 PM
Some people are just heartless, and plainly evil. That is sad! I wouldn't even hurt a spider or an ant.
Yeah but would you eat one? (a chicken?) With rice?

I agree it's super messed up, but this stuff has been going on for centuries with animals. Anyone remember the baby seal vid with the hunter?

Food for thought.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,Jul 22 2004, 10:13 PM
^that's really a totally different issue. taking a life of a living thing is one thing, but torturing that same living thing is something else. i'm not condoning that it is okay for anyone to take the life of any living thing, but if you were to be executed, would you rather that it happened quickly, or would you rather be tortured first??
I can see your point, but let's just take it a bit farther and add in people like the members of PETA....they protest people eating meat (even when it is cows that are killed instantly) yet never say a word about abortion.

BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GradStudent,Jul 22 2004, 08:09 PM
I can see your point, but let's just take it a bit farther and add in people like the members of PETA....they protest people eating meat (even when it is cows that are killed instantly) yet never say a word about abortion.

BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion
okay, for the sake of healthy discussion, there are anti-abortion groups that do anything, legal or illegal, to let others know that abortion is wrong, but yet as far as i'm aware, most of these groups do not say a word about animal abuse. so what exactly is the point here?? personally, i do not care much for the views of the anti-abortion groups or the PETA, or any views of any groups for that matter. all views are pretty much based on the group members' collective personal opinions. what i am concerned about is whether what someone is doing is legal or illegal, and hopely the laws that determine whether someone's action is legal or not is influenced by the views and values of the majority of the people. of course no law can ever please each and every person, but as long as it pleases the majority, than that is the best we can hope for.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by S TWO K,Jul 22 2004, 07:35 PM
Yeah but would you eat one? (a chicken?) With rice?

I agree it's super messed up, but this stuff has been going on for centuries with animals. Anyone remember the baby seal vid with the hunter?

Food for thought.
Eating is a different thing. It's not the same as abusing and torturing a live animal to death. Remember the old days when before the Native Americans killed deers for survival, they would say a prayer of forgiveness first? When something is killed for the survival of others, it should be done with a quickness. Torturing and abusing live animals are totally different.
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GradStudent,Jul 23 2004, 04:09 AM
I can see your point, but let's just take it a bit farther and add in people like the members of PETA....they protest people eating meat (even when it is cows that are killed instantly) yet never say a word about abortion.

BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion
Sounds like you have an agenda. But fine, let's discuss.

Last time I checked, fetuses are rarely tortured, mistreated, and thrown into over crowded bins with other fetuses before they're aborted. They aren't starved, diseased, or painfully disfigured due to genetic enhancements. Their existence isn't wretched and unbearable before their demise. And on top of all that, the point in which life is considered "life" is just another endless debate which will never be settled.

The point I'm trying to make, in case you haven't figured out already, is that although PETA protests meat products in general, their primary focus is the MISTREATMENT of animals in the process. You mention cows are killed instantly. What do you mean by "instantly?" Technically, 90% of all the animals are killed "instantly." It's the life they lead before their death that's the main issue.

But this is all besides the point. PETA was created to protect animals. I don't mean to be rude, but what you're saying is so illogical, that it's hard to even debate.
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by autechre,Jul 23 2004, 08:31 AM
Last time I checked, fetuses are rarely tortured, mistreated, and thrown into over crowded bins with other fetuses before they're aborted. They aren't starved, diseased, or painfully disfigured due to genetic enhancements. Their existence isn't wretched and unbearable before their demise. And on top of all that, the point in which life is considered "life" is just another endless debate which will never be settled.

The point I'm trying to make, in case you haven't figured out already, is that although PETA protests meat products in general, their primary focus is the MISTREATMENT of animals in the process. You mention cows are killed instantly. What do you mean by "instantly?" Technically, 90% of all the animals are killed "instantly." It's the life they lead before their death that's the main issue.
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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well no more kfc for me now. i am gonna have to go with popeyes, besides popeyes taste better imo.

someone needs to go drop kick,throw,step on,smash kfc.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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screw popeye. last time my buddies and i had popeyes, we ended throwing up and having diarhrea the whole night. apparently we got food poisoning from their chicken.
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