Poor Chickens
Does anyone else find it strange that people and the media get this irate about some chickens getting killed in this manner (I agree that it was wrong and extremely cruel) but don't really say anything about the numerous abortions that happen daily?
^that's really a totally different issue. taking a life of a living thing is one thing, but torturing that same living thing is something else. i'm not condoning that it is okay for anyone to take the life of any living thing, but if you were to be executed, would you rather that it happened quickly, or would you rather be tortured first??
Originally Posted by yellafeva,Jul 21 2004, 04:57 PM
Some people are just heartless, and plainly evil.
That is sad! I wouldn't even hurt a spider or an ant. 
That is sad! I wouldn't even hurt a spider or an ant. 
I agree it's super messed up, but this stuff has been going on for centuries with animals. Anyone remember the baby seal vid with the hunter?
Food for thought.
Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,Jul 22 2004, 10:13 PM
^that's really a totally different issue. taking a life of a living thing is one thing, but torturing that same living thing is something else. i'm not condoning that it is okay for anyone to take the life of any living thing, but if you were to be executed, would you rather that it happened quickly, or would you rather be tortured first??
BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion
Originally Posted by GradStudent,Jul 22 2004, 08:09 PM
I can see your point, but let's just take it a bit farther and add in people like the members of PETA....they protest people eating meat (even when it is cows that are killed instantly) yet never say a word about abortion.
BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion
BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion

Originally Posted by S TWO K,Jul 22 2004, 07:35 PM
Yeah but would you eat one? (a chicken?) With rice?
I agree it's super messed up, but this stuff has been going on for centuries with animals. Anyone remember the baby seal vid with the hunter?
Food for thought.
I agree it's super messed up, but this stuff has been going on for centuries with animals. Anyone remember the baby seal vid with the hunter?
Food for thought.

Originally Posted by GradStudent,Jul 23 2004, 04:09 AM
I can see your point, but let's just take it a bit farther and add in people like the members of PETA....they protest people eating meat (even when it is cows that are killed instantly) yet never say a word about abortion.
BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion
BTW, not trying to start a flame war here, just trying to bring up points for discussion

Last time I checked, fetuses are rarely tortured, mistreated, and thrown into over crowded bins with other fetuses before they're aborted. They aren't starved, diseased, or painfully disfigured due to genetic enhancements. Their existence isn't wretched and unbearable before their demise. And on top of all that, the point in which life is considered "life" is just another endless debate which will never be settled.
The point I'm trying to make, in case you haven't figured out already, is that although PETA protests meat products in general, their primary focus is the MISTREATMENT of animals in the process. You mention cows are killed instantly. What do you mean by "instantly?" Technically, 90% of all the animals are killed "instantly." It's the life they lead before their death that's the main issue.
But this is all besides the point. PETA was created to protect animals. I don't mean to be rude, but what you're saying is so illogical, that it's hard to even debate.
Originally Posted by autechre,Jul 23 2004, 08:31 AM
Last time I checked, fetuses are rarely tortured, mistreated, and thrown into over crowded bins with other fetuses before they're aborted. They aren't starved, diseased, or painfully disfigured due to genetic enhancements. Their existence isn't wretched and unbearable before their demise. And on top of all that, the point in which life is considered "life" is just another endless debate which will never be settled.
The point I'm trying to make, in case you haven't figured out already, is that although PETA protests meat products in general, their primary focus is the MISTREATMENT of animals in the process. You mention cows are killed instantly. What do you mean by "instantly?" Technically, 90% of all the animals are killed "instantly." It's the life they lead before their death that's the main issue.
The point I'm trying to make, in case you haven't figured out already, is that although PETA protests meat products in general, their primary focus is the MISTREATMENT of animals in the process. You mention cows are killed instantly. What do you mean by "instantly?" Technically, 90% of all the animals are killed "instantly." It's the life they lead before their death that's the main issue.



