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From: Gleening the apex
Originally Posted by Ubetit,Aug 4 2008, 10:09 AM
It takes electricity and they often need repair. If I owned a gas station I'd charge also.
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From: Gleening the apex
Ok maybe the same guy owns the BP across the street and the Marathon at the next corner and he's a money hungry bastard out to screw everyone over
So what's next $.10 for water to wash your windows ? $.05 to make the pump light up at night so you can see ?
Point is what was once free to the consumer for purchasing your petro there is now charged to you.
So what's next $.10 for water to wash your windows ? $.05 to make the pump light up at night so you can see ?
Point is what was once free to the consumer for purchasing your petro there is now charged to you.
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From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Originally Posted by PrimoGen,Aug 4 2008, 02:51 PM
I think you are blaming the wrong people here.
It is bad that a company supplies a product at a price sustained by its own market?
They are not setting the price...they are selling their product into a world market.
You have no clue how much it takes to run those HUGE oil companies.
If they made billions of dollars on an 8% margin then the problem is definately not them...its us and the entities we let set our pricing (speculators, OPEC etc)
its wrong for a company to charge what the market will allow for any goods or services??????
Please...... whatever you do....do not ever run a company
It is bad that a company supplies a product at a price sustained by its own market?
They are not setting the price...they are selling their product into a world market.
You have no clue how much it takes to run those HUGE oil companies.
If they made billions of dollars on an 8% margin then the problem is definately not them...its us and the entities we let set our pricing (speculators, OPEC etc)
its wrong for a company to charge what the market will allow for any goods or services??????
Please...... whatever you do....do not ever run a company
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From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Originally Posted by Popeye,Aug 4 2008, 06:13 PM
Ok maybe the same guy owns the BP across the street and the Marathon at the next corner and he's a money hungry bastard out to screw everyone over
So what's next $.10 for water to wash your windows ? $.05 to make the pump light up at night so you can see ?
Point is what was once free to the consumer for purchasing your petro there is now charged to you.
So what's next $.10 for water to wash your windows ? $.05 to make the pump light up at night so you can see ?
Point is what was once free to the consumer for purchasing your petro there is now charged to you.
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From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Originally Posted by PrimoGen,Aug 4 2008, 02:51 PM
If they made billions of dollars on an 8% margin then the problem is definately not them...its us and the entities we let set our pricing (speculators, OPEC etc)
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From: Sun★Works
Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt,Aug 4 2008, 06:25 PM
Yet they are setting their own price. They decide on the percentage of markup above cost. This to the detriment of the overall economy. Is it a free market? Yes it is. Is that appropriate? I'm not really sure on that. It's not like there is a free market on electricity or natural gas. We see fit in this country to set price controls on those commodities.
If the world said to you the oil company, "We are willing to spend 120.00 for a barrel of oil", you would drop your price and let them buy it for 50.00 a barrel......... ???
HEH??????
if you are not in a favor of free markets and capitalism then you must be either a socialist or a communist. there are not too many other "ists" out there.....
As long as companies are willing to purchase oil at 120.00+ per barrel and we the end consumer are willing to pay whatever it is we are paying for fuel then there is no reason for anybody to do anything.
No company on the planet (making money) is here to do you a favor. they exist to make money (as much and as quickly as they can).
I am not saying I want to to pay 5.00 a gallon for gas. i want the price to come down too. What I am saying is that until we as a nation become self sufficient with our dependence on oil we will be a slave to the community that sets the market price for oil.
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Originally Posted by PrimoGen,Aug 4 2008, 06:06 PM
so let me get this straight:
If the world said to you the oil company, "We are willing to spend 120.00 for a barrel of oil", you would drop your price and let them buy it for 50.00 a barrel......... ???
HEH??????
if you are not in a favor of free markets and capitalism then you must be either a socialist or a communist. there are not too many other "ists" out there.....
As long as companies are willing to purchase oil at 120.00+ per barrel and we the end consumer are willing to pay whatever it is we are paying for fuel then there is no reason for anybody to do anything.
No company on the planet (making money) is here to do you a favor. they exist to make money (as much and as quickly as they can).
I am not saying I want to to pay 5.00 a gallon for gas. i want the price to come down too. What I am saying is that until we as a nation become self sufficient with our dependence on oil we will be a slave to the community that sets the market price for oil.
If the world said to you the oil company, "We are willing to spend 120.00 for a barrel of oil", you would drop your price and let them buy it for 50.00 a barrel......... ???
HEH??????
if you are not in a favor of free markets and capitalism then you must be either a socialist or a communist. there are not too many other "ists" out there.....
As long as companies are willing to purchase oil at 120.00+ per barrel and we the end consumer are willing to pay whatever it is we are paying for fuel then there is no reason for anybody to do anything.
No company on the planet (making money) is here to do you a favor. they exist to make money (as much and as quickly as they can).
I am not saying I want to to pay 5.00 a gallon for gas. i want the price to come down too. What I am saying is that until we as a nation become self sufficient with our dependence on oil we will be a slave to the community that sets the market price for oil.
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From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Fellas, you can toss around all the socialist, communist, marxist or whatever-ist names you want but you all know that there is really no such thing as a totally free market economy. Ever single "free market" country is a blend of capitalism and socialism. Some more, some less, but every one including the US has some socialist aspects to it. You guys make it sound like a bad word.
The fact of the matter is that energy pricing is a drain on the wealth of the common man in this and all countries and it needs to be addressed. ... and no, I am not in favor of windfall profits taxes. The profits are already being taxed and the government is getting the windfall from it. I wonder how we will piss it away.
The fact of the matter is that energy pricing is a drain on the wealth of the common man in this and all countries and it needs to be addressed. ... and no, I am not in favor of windfall profits taxes. The profits are already being taxed and the government is getting the windfall from it. I wonder how we will piss it away.