Yup. RIP once again. No matter whether her actions were right or wrong, she is dead. It bugs me when someone starts bashing someone's idelologies and decisions when they are deceased. Especially since from what I know, she was a good person.

 

everyone here is saying, what a tragic event, because she was beautiful, rich, whatever... that her life couldn't have been all that bad.

We don't know the story behind what or why she did it, only that something was bad enough for her to end her life.

Many people commit suicide and it is sad that whatever demons they are facing, they can't deal with. I can't say they are weak, or that they are stupid to not face it. I believe they did try to face the situation and realized that life is just not worth living anymore.

The argument that unless they are ill, or have some disease is a justified reason to end a person's life is also wrong. If you agree that they have the right to choose, everyone, regardless of their condition should have the right to choose as well.

I don't believe it is right to take your own life, but it is wrong for me to speak without knowing why they did it.

 

right. but feelings and hopes are perspectives and expectations, both of which ARE repairable and/or alterable. people like to say that emotional/psychological pains are difficult to alleviate, but if one understands that emotions are byproducts of perspectives, then merely by altering one's perspective of the situation can change the emotional outcome. people who are undergoing excruciating emotional turmoil are usually viewing their situation from a distorted perspective. this is not to say that their concerns and views are not justified, only that if they look at the situation through a more rational perspective, things may not seem as overwhelming and uncontrolable as they seem.

 

Before killing yourself over an emotional issue, seek professional counseling. If you don't see progress with one therapist go to another, rinse and repeat until you understand that there is a way to get better and find contentment. For the most part people can develop ways to cope with nearly any tragedy and still be a productive member of society. You can wash and dye it anyway you like, but that is the reality.

 

I agree with what you've said to a great extent, and it's true most of the time, but sometimes it's not that simple. Feelings, hope, and emotion in general are not necessarily linked to perspective. There is a whole host of internal factors such as neurotransmitters that affect emotions and which perspective doesn't have very much of a bearing on. It's why two people can go through the exact same trauma or life experiences, and one will develop bipolar disorder or PTSD while the other will not. Different people are simply programmed differently, and to say that it's merely a matter of perspective is oversimplifying things.

One of the great (and frustrating) mysteries of life, in my opinion, is that each of us will never know exactly how someone else feels. I can't claim to understand how this girl felt, but I can sympathize with her and believe that whatever she was going through was pretty bad. The objective events that led to her suicide may have been things that most people can deal with and move past (I don't know), but obviously she felt bad enough where she couldn't. To me, it's shortsighted to say that she was stupid simply because she couldn't deal with a situation that most people are able to deal with. People are different. Was she weak minded? Well, I don't know. Even if she was, so what? People don't have the same level of mental strength.

 

I wholly agree that one should seek counseling before taking drastic measures like suicide. As someone who has struggled with an anxiety disorder my entire life, though, that view should be tempered with the reality that therapy may or may not work.

One issue is that psychotherapy isn't an exact science. Whether you're doing behavioral therapy, taking psychotropic drugs, or using a combination of the two, there isn't a surefire treatment for any given ailment. Patients respond differently, and many don't respond at all. In cases where treatment does work, the patient often needs to undergo treatment and take drugs for life. Even if a drug works initially, there is no guarantee that it will continue working indefinitely, and many psychotropic drugs have a limit to how long they can be used. Once that limit is up, there are undesirable side effects, a weakening of desired effects, and some other treatment -- that may or may not exist -- has to be found. Be it behavioral or drug therapy, any lapse usually leads to the problem returning very strongly. The bottom line is that therapy can and does work for many people, but the human mind is still very poorly understood, and it is largely a matter of trial and error and hoping for the best.

I agree that most people can learn to cope with problems and continue living normally. And most do. But the folks who commit suicide aren't part of that majority. Again, I don't know what they're thinking as I've never been there (well not exactly there, anyway), but sometimes people are just beyond anything that therapy can reach or even understand.

 

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oak leaves?

 

Where did you come up with that? Not from that article! It only says her family made up a story of her being involved in a crash. But investigation concluded that she was found almost dead in her room by her bf.

 

actually, smoking "oak leaves" won't help in all cases, and more often than not, is a fairly accurate indicator that something else should be tried It's no different than people who drink all the time - they do so not because they are supremely healthy-minded and happy. Drinking and/or smoking "oak leaves" doesn't address the problem, and can exacerbate it. Don't take that to mean I don't condone "oak leaf self-medication" on occasion