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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by steve c' date='Feb 9 2005, 09:06 PM
On a tangent, what's so wrong with spanking? I've never understood folks who are so against it. I was spanked, and I damn well deserved it.
Damn it steve this is the second time I agree with you.

My mother only spanked me a few times but she put the fear of pain, death, and torture in my mind.

I was acting up in church one day and she leaned over grit her teeth grabed my arm and said "if you keep that up I'm gonna break your arm" I remember thinking she really wouldn't break my arm but uh maybe she would she looks pretty pissed. I ain't gonna risk it. Needless to say i was silent the rest of the day.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by steve c' date='Feb 9 2005, 09:06 PM
On a tangent, what's so wrong with spanking? I've never understood folks who are so against it. I was spanked, and I damn well deserved it.
Interesting that you think you deserved to be physically harmed. Of course it's possible that people won't be adversely affected by being spanked on occasion. But just because you were spanked and turned out 'okay' doesn't mean other children fare the same. There are countless studies done on its long term effects, but I think you would find a number of experts arguing for both sides.
For me, some of the more compelling arguments against spanking are:
-it seems to suit the parent's needs (i.e. releasing anger/frustration - hence the ''use as a lest resort" reason) as opposed to benefitting the child. No one has been able to convince me exactly what makes it necessary to hit my child
-it can teach children to use violence in order to get what they want and that it's okay for people who supposedly love you to physically harm you
-why use violence when you can use words? Any child that is not old enough to be spoken to about something is too young to be spanked due to a significant risk of serious injury.
-lots of people argue it's an issue of rights. When adults do something wrong, it's not acceptable to hit them. Historically children have been treated as lesser beings than adults by the law.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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I think a quick spank at the exact time of the mis-behavior is fine.

Your not doing it to cause harm just to give quick negative feedback.

Now my mother putting the fear of god in me worked well on me but I think she could've made me respect her by using less than "I'll break your arm" scare tactics.

I mean I couldn't imagine saying that to my kids unless everything else I did didn't work.

I would not be "timeout time" dad.

No freakin way.

I like the punishment carpet that nanny on tv uses because it's like torture that kids is freaking out staying on the damn carpet.

My #1 belief is your kids need to respect your lazy I just want to relax when I get home ass.

If they do you might just be able to get some rest when they are doing there homework every day!
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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i think it should be a law that i spank any hot woman who shows her thong
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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I see it all the time. Kids running ramped through stores like it's a playground, misbehaving while their mother is saying, "Stop Johnie... Come here Johnie... Why aren't you listening to me Johnie?" as the kid continues to disobey. Grab the friggen kid by his ear lobe and put a palm print on his butt cheak. Sometimes it gets to a point where it is definitely necassary at the kid's level of comprehension. There is a fine line between abuse and discipline. To this day, the military uses levels of discomfort and/or pain to discipline troops during training. Why? Because it works.

I remember getting smacked quite a few times (on different occasions). As said above, I deserved it too. It got to the point where all my mother had to do was give me the "evil eye" and it would stop me right in my tracks. People want kids, but don't want to be bothered disciplining them.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel' date='Feb 9 2005, 09:36 PM
This is the lamest Bull$hit I've ever heard.



YES!

Your 12 year old daughter ass isn't a billboard.

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i never said it was ok for a 12 year old.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:29 AM
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your right you implied it was okay for a 14 year old.

Sorry
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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First we had DWB now VA's going to have WWB. I'm sure this will be used to target young Black males. It will then be challenged and shown to be used in a harassing manner and will be found unconstitutional. And VA, in its infinite wisdom, will have wasted untold amounts of taxpayer money!
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotKD' date='Feb 10 2005, 12:55 AM


I see it all the time. Kids running ramped through stores like it's a playground, misbehaving while their mother is saying, "Stop Johnie... Come here Johnie... Why aren't you listening to me Johnie?" as the kid continues to disobey. Grab the friggen kid by his ear lobe and put a palm print on his butt cheak. Sometimes it gets to a point where it is definitely necassary at the kid's level of comprehension. There is a fine line between abuse and discipline. To this day, the military uses levels of discomfort and/or pain to discipline troops during training. Why? Because it works.

I remember getting smacked quite a few times (on different occasions). As said above, I deserved it too. It got to the point where all my mother had to do was give me the "evil eye" and it would stop me right in my tracks. People want kids, but don't want to be bothered disciplining them.
My point is that you can discipline children without hitting them. I work with families and I see children acting out of control [I]because the parents give children inconsistent expectations and don
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