Swing out the tail w/o overcorrecting?
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Swing out the tail w/o overcorrecting?
I figured I'd put this in OT because it's not really something that fits in the main S2000 forum.
Last night a friend and I were taking turns riding his scooter in a REALLY big empty lot where we set up some cones to do a little slalom run just for kicks. Anyways, after a while I thought about trying to simulate a hard left turn by setting up the cones to look like a corner.
I was in 2nd approaching the 90degree left psuedo-corner that I made. I gave it light throttle as I was starting the turn. Just before the "puesdo apex" I gave the throttle a swift punch [not to the floor] to induce oversteer and swing-out the back. As I was correcting the car, I immediately was greeted with a bit of snap oversteer. I adjusted the steering a bit less and the car snapped back into line.
Unfortunately I couldn't really remember what I was doing w/ the thottle after the snap oversteer. I'm well aware of the reason why snap oversteer occurs and theoretically (dynamics: path coordinate computations?) how I *should* be correcting it: less steering effort into the drift and more throttle. Intuitively, though, when your facing the side of the road and the movement of ur car is somewhat lateral to the nose of your car, it's almost instinctively insane to give it throttle. Common sense tells you to turn the steering wheel away from the side of the road and also that giving it any throttle will send u right into the side of the road. Of course as soon as you turn the steering wheel the other way and you dont give it throttle, your car will snap the other way and lunge hard into the other side of the road (where your initial laterial momentum was already taking you).
So I guess I'm asking if it's a simple matter of retraining your common sense? This kind of stuff is fun to do, but can easily turn into a nasty accident.
Last night a friend and I were taking turns riding his scooter in a REALLY big empty lot where we set up some cones to do a little slalom run just for kicks. Anyways, after a while I thought about trying to simulate a hard left turn by setting up the cones to look like a corner.
I was in 2nd approaching the 90degree left psuedo-corner that I made. I gave it light throttle as I was starting the turn. Just before the "puesdo apex" I gave the throttle a swift punch [not to the floor] to induce oversteer and swing-out the back. As I was correcting the car, I immediately was greeted with a bit of snap oversteer. I adjusted the steering a bit less and the car snapped back into line.
Unfortunately I couldn't really remember what I was doing w/ the thottle after the snap oversteer. I'm well aware of the reason why snap oversteer occurs and theoretically (dynamics: path coordinate computations?) how I *should* be correcting it: less steering effort into the drift and more throttle. Intuitively, though, when your facing the side of the road and the movement of ur car is somewhat lateral to the nose of your car, it's almost instinctively insane to give it throttle. Common sense tells you to turn the steering wheel away from the side of the road and also that giving it any throttle will send u right into the side of the road. Of course as soon as you turn the steering wheel the other way and you dont give it throttle, your car will snap the other way and lunge hard into the other side of the road (where your initial laterial momentum was already taking you).
So I guess I'm asking if it's a simple matter of retraining your common sense? This kind of stuff is fun to do, but can easily turn into a nasty accident.
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