Timothy McVeigh
05-31-2001, 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by cthree:
Why the fuss? Why doesn't someone take a .45, place the business end on his temple and pull the trigger? Same result but quicker, cheaper and just as humane (no pain).
Why the fuss? Why doesn't someone take a .45, place the business end on his temple and pull the trigger? Same result but quicker, cheaper and just as humane (no pain).
If it makes anyone feel better, we could give McVeigh hookers, booze and pizza for a couple of days before we drop the building on him. My whole point was that the punishment should fit the crime.
Mingster, while I sympathize with the plight of all minorities (Hell, I'm a W.A.S.P.*), the subject was Timothy McVeigh.
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05-31-2001, 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by lvs2k
An execution method preferred by those wonderful folks who brought us the Soviet Union.
If it makes anyone feel better, we could give McVeigh hookers, booze and pizza for a couple of days before we drop the building on him. My whole point was that the punishment should fit the crime.
Mingster, while I sympathize with the plight of all minorities (Hell, I'm a W.A.S.P.*), the subject was Timothy McVeigh.
*W.hite A.nglo-S.axon P.rotestant, itself fastly becoming a much maligned minority.
Originally posted by cthree:
Why the fuss? Why doesn't someone take a .45, place the business end on his temple and pull the trigger? Same result but quicker, cheaper and just as humane (no pain).
Why the fuss? Why doesn't someone take a .45, place the business end on his temple and pull the trigger? Same result but quicker, cheaper and just as humane (no pain).
If it makes anyone feel better, we could give McVeigh hookers, booze and pizza for a couple of days before we drop the building on him. My whole point was that the punishment should fit the crime.
Mingster, while I sympathize with the plight of all minorities (Hell, I'm a W.A.S.P.*), the subject was Timothy McVeigh.
*W.hite A.nglo-S.axon P.rotestant, itself fastly becoming a much maligned minority.
Another classmate of mine who's from one of the African countries was telling me about the pre-civil rights movement cases down south he's researching (shudders).
T.M. is a dead man, one way or another.
However, I do believe Buddha once said: Let death not be the end of his deeds, for we should be compassionate and let him repent for his deeds. And when he realizes that the calm shore is always right behind him, he shall turn around and reach nirvana.
05-31-2001, 08:03 AM
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Funny game :
in the following list of countries, pick the ones that are generally considered as being democratic and develloped :
AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, ARMENIA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHILE, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI, MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, NORTH KOREA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SOUTH KOREA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, YUGOSLAVIA (Federal Republic), ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE
That's right, you'll find 2 of them, maybe 3.
China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the United States and Iran are the most prolific executioners in the world. Indeed, the US is one of six countries (including also Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) which executes people who were under 18 years-old at the time they committed their crimes.
in the following list of countries, pick the ones that are generally considered as being democratic and develloped :
AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, ARMENIA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHILE, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI, MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, NORTH KOREA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SOUTH KOREA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, YUGOSLAVIA (Federal Republic), ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE
That's right, you'll find 2 of them, maybe 3.
China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the United States and Iran are the most prolific executioners in the world. Indeed, the US is one of six countries (including also Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) which executes people who were under 18 years-old at the time they committed their crimes.
05-31-2001, 08:13 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by le car
[B]China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the United States and Iran are the most prolific executioners in the world. Indeed, the US is one of six countries (including also Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) which executes people who were under 18 years-old at the time they committed their crimes.
[B]China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the United States and Iran are the most prolific executioners in the world. Indeed, the US is one of six countries (including also Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) which executes people who were under 18 years-old at the time they committed their crimes.
05-31-2001, 09:42 AM
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I am a death penalty supporter; however, I think the death penalty as we know it seems like too easy a way out for people like Timothy McVeigh. He gets to spread his hate message and then check out without feeling an ounce of the suffering he inflicted?
Think about that kid who was caned in Singapore (I think that's where it was?)... I think that kid will think twice about going to Singapore and keying another car, don't you? Perhaps that's what is wrong with the U.S.; not enough fear of the consequences because the consequences are too light!
Make the punishment fit the crime, and in Timothy McVeigh's case, I'm not sure that some kind of public drawing and quartering, right there in Oklahoma City, wouldn't be appropriate. I wouldn't think that to be cruel and unusual at all in light of the fact of what he did, intentionally.
Think about that kid who was caned in Singapore (I think that's where it was?)... I think that kid will think twice about going to Singapore and keying another car, don't you? Perhaps that's what is wrong with the U.S.; not enough fear of the consequences because the consequences are too light!
Make the punishment fit the crime, and in Timothy McVeigh's case, I'm not sure that some kind of public drawing and quartering, right there in Oklahoma City, wouldn't be appropriate. I wouldn't think that to be cruel and unusual at all in light of the fact of what he did, intentionally.