Yep, i'm agreeing with you on this. Let the people take care of him.
Send him to China.

 

China, now there is an idea. Just say he was responsible for their plane going down and drop him off.

Lance

 

he will only get a bullet. none of that gullag or hard labor stuff.

hmmm...if you knew what the ancient chinese used to do to torture...

 

This is for those of you who think we should "draw and quarter" or do something equally brutal to Tim McVeigh consider that if we do subject them to some type of punishment as you propose we merely bring ourselves down to their level. The purpose of punishment isn't for retribution and vengence but to associate a consequence to an action.

 

As I first said, Moral Symmetry. Thank you , very much! Retribution and vengence works for me, too!

[Edited by lvs2k on 05-31-2001 at 04:27 PM]

 

Interesting views. le car is obviously just making a typical anti-american remark but the issue of "punishment" is an interesting one.

It has always been my understanding that the purpose of incarceration was "reform" not punishment. Do people go to prison to be punish for what they did or to reform and reenter society as productive citizens. The US prison system was based on the idea that religios study and hard labor would reform the morals of the convicts. It's now just a warehouse.

Mr. le car, does French Guiana ring any bells? It wasn't that long ago that it was an active penal colony where your chances were far better that you'd starve to death than ever be released or escape. In fact it was near 100% if I recall.

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Fr.

 

Personnally, I'm quite pleased to hear that he will request a stay of execution. I know in time that he will removed from the gene pool regardless of what happens over the next few weeks, months, or years. But, knowing that he does not want to die - he is fighting to live on - will make the punishment just that much better.

 

For more reading material:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/557581.asp

 

cthree, if you dig in the past, of course you'll find that most countries had barbaric coutumes and habits, what I was trying to highlight is the fact that nearly all occidental countries have banned death penalty, apart from the US. I just don't understand why. Death penalty has proven itself as a non-dissuading punishment, just compare the levels of criminality.
And the risk of making a justice error is just too big. Especially considering the way things work in america : if you can afford the good lawyers you have more chances to get a fair judgement than if you're a mentally retarded outcast from a poor neighborhood (did I say that being black doesn't help?...)
Again I'm not primary anti-american, I'm anti-death penalty. And I know it's hard to convince an angry crowd, so I won't even try. I just wanted to voice a different opinion on this forum.

 

The death penalty does not work as a deterrent. That's a popular argument promoted by those who stand against it. I agree that it may not serve as a deterrent; however, it does remove the properly and legally convicted person from existence, a right they forfeited the moment they committed their crime.