Is tipping required for take out?
For bartenders: if you're having one drink, toss in a buck. If you're going to be there a while, run a tab and tip 20% if you got healthy pours.
Here's a question - several places (Chili's, for example) do a curbside to go pickup - what's the consensus? I usually toss a couple of bucks on the tab for boxing and bagging the chow and walking out in the cold.
Got Snappy Tomato pizza last night - kid had the pizza there in 20 minutes, and "it was just out of the oven" hot - gave him a fiver.
Here's a question - several places (Chili's, for example) do a curbside to go pickup - what's the consensus? I usually toss a couple of bucks on the tab for boxing and bagging the chow and walking out in the cold.
Got Snappy Tomato pizza last night - kid had the pizza there in 20 minutes, and "it was just out of the oven" hot - gave him a fiver.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip#United_States
How in the world is a person supposed to know all of this?
How in the world is a person supposed to know all of this?
Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Feb 7 2009, 04:38 AM
This is for you, and for anyone talking about money and education......
I manage a very large restaurant group in NYC. Some of the waiters that work for me make $250,000 a year.......CASH! Any of you make that? Figure out that number of a comparable salary (250K take home) and let me know if you still think they are uneducated.
Some might say that someone that spends 14 years in school getting a wall full of degrees, and never even reaches that financial level is "uneducated."
IMHO in this country there are two kinds of people, the educated, and the rich. The owners of the company I work for pull down about 200 million a YEAR. All three of them barely graduated high school.
I manage a very large restaurant group in NYC. Some of the waiters that work for me make $250,000 a year.......CASH! Any of you make that? Figure out that number of a comparable salary (250K take home) and let me know if you still think they are uneducated.
Some might say that someone that spends 14 years in school getting a wall full of degrees, and never even reaches that financial level is "uneducated."
IMHO in this country there are two kinds of people, the educated, and the rich. The owners of the company I work for pull down about 200 million a YEAR. All three of them barely graduated high school.
How many of these '250k net' waiters do you have working for you? I find that figure highly suspect, but will take you on your word for it. The amount of revenue required for a restaurant to provide those kinds of earnings for waitstaff would be ridiculous. Either your margins are astronomical, or you do an extremely large number of covers (or both). And yes, even if they make that supposed amount, they could still be uneducated... unless you have people with doctorates waiting tables for you.
The two groups you mentioned (the rich and the educated) are not mutually exclusive, but education and earning power ARE correlated. Just so we are clear, education != intelligence.
ref:The date and nominal figures in this data are irrelevant, the relationship is the important part to note: http://www.bls.gov/emp/emptab7.htm
Back on topic... I still stand by what I said about tipping.
also you have to take in consideration the tip outs some servers have to do. My wife recently took a part time job as a server at a nicer sushi/teppanyaki restaurant. She has to tip out the Bar, Sushi chefs, and Teppanyaki chefs. A percentage of her tips are taken at the end of the night for each of these. She also only makes the 2 dollars and change minimum.
so if you think that money you left at the table for a tip is just going to the server at some of these joints, think again.
and now that she has taken a job doing this, when we go out to eat I'm tipping a good 25% at least usually
I do not tip carryout, but do tip curbside (rarely do curbside though)
so if you think that money you left at the table for a tip is just going to the server at some of these joints, think again.
and now that she has taken a job doing this, when we go out to eat I'm tipping a good 25% at least usually
I do not tip carryout, but do tip curbside (rarely do curbside though)
Originally Posted by phizzak.s2k,Feb 7 2009, 12:58 PM
How many of these '250k net' waiters do you have working for you? I find that figure highly suspect, but will take you on your word for it. what I said about tipping.
The numbers just don't jive. I can see making 100k/year, but 250k just sounds waaaay out there.
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Originally Posted by kadeshpa,Feb 7 2009, 10:49 AM
I find the 250k cash highly suspect. IF they worked EVERY day in the year, they would have to cash out $685 per day. If this is a top tier restaurant, and they're making $100 in tips per table, you're looking at 6-7 covers.
The numbers just don't jive. I can see making 100k/year, but 250k just sounds waaaay out there.
The numbers just don't jive. I can see making 100k/year, but 250k just sounds waaaay out there.
but shit, NYC? money there doesn't go a long way. maybe you'll make $100k+ a year, but how much is rent?
Originally Posted by phizzak.s2k,Feb 7 2009, 12:58 PM
This is for you and the other Bill Gates and pro athlete story tellers and dreamers out there...
How many of these '250k net' waiters do you have working for you? I find that figure highly suspect, but will take you on your word for it. The amount of revenue required for a restaurant to provide those kinds of earnings for waitstaff would be ridiculous. Either your margins are astronomical, or you do an extremely large number of covers (or both). And yes, even if they make that supposed amount, they could still be uneducated... unless you have people with doctorates waiting tables for you.
The two groups you mentioned (the rich and the educated) are not mutually exclusive, but education and earning power ARE correlated. Just so we are clear, education != intelligence.
ref:The date and nominal figures in this data are irrelevant, the relationship is the important part to note: http://www.bls.gov/emp/emptab7.htm
Back on topic... I still stand by what I said about tipping.
How many of these '250k net' waiters do you have working for you? I find that figure highly suspect, but will take you on your word for it. The amount of revenue required for a restaurant to provide those kinds of earnings for waitstaff would be ridiculous. Either your margins are astronomical, or you do an extremely large number of covers (or both). And yes, even if they make that supposed amount, they could still be uneducated... unless you have people with doctorates waiting tables for you.
The two groups you mentioned (the rich and the educated) are not mutually exclusive, but education and earning power ARE correlated. Just so we are clear, education != intelligence.
ref:The date and nominal figures in this data are irrelevant, the relationship is the important part to note: http://www.bls.gov/emp/emptab7.htm
Back on topic... I still stand by what I said about tipping.
I wouldn't underestimate the numbers. Having eaten at quite a few of these types of restaurants myself when I worked in the city I can tell you that if you are out with clients or colleagues, in say a party of 8....you will be dropping at the very least $1500-2500 on food alone. Add wine for dinner, and then after dinner drinks, that's another $500-1500, depending on what you are drinking. This is just one table mind you. There are also private rooms in a lot of these types of restaurants as well, to go along with the other 30 or so tables in a restaurant.


