Umbilical Cord Blood preservation?
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Differant world out here, Took me a while to find a place to do it, the cost was less then a set of front tires, and once it was done, that was the last I head about it.
Hard to believe people can so actively market something like this, when it has to do with such a sensitive subject.
all about the money.. kinda sad..
Wether it is of value or not is debatable, but if I had to gamble, hoping that if needed it would help for a measly 400 bucks up front is a better bet then dropping 400 bucks in the casino in a night.. thats the way I look at things
Hard to believe people can so actively market something like this, when it has to do with such a sensitive subject.
all about the money.. kinda sad..
Wether it is of value or not is debatable, but if I had to gamble, hoping that if needed it would help for a measly 400 bucks up front is a better bet then dropping 400 bucks in the casino in a night.. thats the way I look at things
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definitely sad that something like this was so force marketed... and the whole pitch was always this tragic event sales push, which just harped on the fear aspect... it was really disgusting.
and well, if it would have cost me $400.00 CDN ($30.00 USD) to do this for each of the kids -- i probably would have considered it. especially if it was a one time fee... but the additionally $500 a year kinda made it just not worth it...
(btw, $300.00)
and well, if it would have cost me $400.00 CDN ($30.00 USD) to do this for each of the kids -- i probably would have considered it. especially if it was a one time fee... but the additionally $500 a year kinda made it just not worth it...
(btw, $300.00)
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Originally posted by Mindcore
Differant world out here, Took me a while to find a place to do it, the cost was less then a set of front tires, and once it was done, that was the last I head about it.
Hard to believe people can so actively market something like this, when it has to do with such a sensitive subject.
all about the money.. kinda sad..
Wether it is of value or not is debatable, but if I had to gamble, hoping that if needed it would help for a measly 400 bucks up front is a better bet then dropping 400 bucks in the casino in a night.. thats the way I look at things
Differant world out here, Took me a while to find a place to do it, the cost was less then a set of front tires, and once it was done, that was the last I head about it.
Hard to believe people can so actively market something like this, when it has to do with such a sensitive subject.
all about the money.. kinda sad..
Wether it is of value or not is debatable, but if I had to gamble, hoping that if needed it would help for a measly 400 bucks up front is a better bet then dropping 400 bucks in the casino in a night.. thats the way I look at things
So hearing the feedback here, I guess it's not needed...I guess I'll save that $2k for a go kart when he gets a little older
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From: knoxville, TN
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PJK3, that sounds terrible! These people that ring you up and badger you are worse then spammers IMO. Hitting delete on an email is simple but getting phone calls at your home regarding personal matters is far beyond the privacy acts and should be addressed in the same fashion as the top end spam producers.
Mingster it seems like you've got enough reading material in those links but if not just check out some of the google ads on this page
Mingster it seems like you've got enough reading material in those links but if not just check out some of the google ads on this page
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I'll post some snipits from the "results" section of the review article and try to summarize (to make it easier for those not in the medical field)
"Allogeneic CBT from either related or unrelated donor is a feasible procedure able to cure a significant proportion of children and adults with AL, especially if they are transplanted in a favorable phase of disease.54 Besides disease status, favorable prognostic factors are HLA identity, NC dose and recipient's CMV sero-negative status."
-this basically says that stem cell transplant from umbilical blood is a do able procedure and results in a significantly high cure rate i.e. more than chance alone i.e. its no accident that the patients that recieved the stem cells were cured. There are other factors though, including: immune system markers (HLA type), whether or not the patient has been infected with a virus that is normally not a problem, but becomes one if they have to have chemo (CMV).
"The frequency and severity of GVHD after CBT is lower than after BMT, even when HLA disparate CB grafts are given. Initial concerns were that the better immunological tolerance to CB progenitor cells could predispose patients to an increased risk of leukemia relapse compared with BMT. However, similar EFS and rate of relapse have been reported in recipients of CB and BM transplants. "
- Those that recieved cord bloot transplant had a lower incidence of Graft Vs. Host Disease; a condition in which the immune cells from the transplant recognize the the recipiants body as "non-self" and attack it. This is one of the many problems with transplants and the fact that it is reduced is important. Intially, researches feared that since the cord blood stem cells were so well tolerated, there would be an increase in recurrance rate compared to traditional bone marrow transplant. This has not been shown, the relapse rate is not different.
"In children, long-term outcomes of CBT are similar to that of other stem cell sources, but in adult patients poorer results are achieved"
-This is important to note becuase it shows that this procedure does have limitations, indicated by several studies. One of these limitations is the utility of cord blood/stem cell transplant in adults. So the most benefit is seen in kids. Maybe after age 10 you could quit paying and have them dump the blood.
I am not endorsing the procedure, and I don't work for any company. I do feel you should make an informed decision and have tried to provide enough information from reputable sources so you can do just that.... hope this helps.
"Allogeneic CBT from either related or unrelated donor is a feasible procedure able to cure a significant proportion of children and adults with AL, especially if they are transplanted in a favorable phase of disease.54 Besides disease status, favorable prognostic factors are HLA identity, NC dose and recipient's CMV sero-negative status."
-this basically says that stem cell transplant from umbilical blood is a do able procedure and results in a significantly high cure rate i.e. more than chance alone i.e. its no accident that the patients that recieved the stem cells were cured. There are other factors though, including: immune system markers (HLA type), whether or not the patient has been infected with a virus that is normally not a problem, but becomes one if they have to have chemo (CMV).
"The frequency and severity of GVHD after CBT is lower than after BMT, even when HLA disparate CB grafts are given. Initial concerns were that the better immunological tolerance to CB progenitor cells could predispose patients to an increased risk of leukemia relapse compared with BMT. However, similar EFS and rate of relapse have been reported in recipients of CB and BM transplants. "
- Those that recieved cord bloot transplant had a lower incidence of Graft Vs. Host Disease; a condition in which the immune cells from the transplant recognize the the recipiants body as "non-self" and attack it. This is one of the many problems with transplants and the fact that it is reduced is important. Intially, researches feared that since the cord blood stem cells were so well tolerated, there would be an increase in recurrance rate compared to traditional bone marrow transplant. This has not been shown, the relapse rate is not different.
"In children, long-term outcomes of CBT are similar to that of other stem cell sources, but in adult patients poorer results are achieved"
-This is important to note becuase it shows that this procedure does have limitations, indicated by several studies. One of these limitations is the utility of cord blood/stem cell transplant in adults. So the most benefit is seen in kids. Maybe after age 10 you could quit paying and have them dump the blood.
I am not endorsing the procedure, and I don't work for any company. I do feel you should make an informed decision and have tried to provide enough information from reputable sources so you can do just that.... hope this helps.
