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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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i seen that video before...

THIS video has been edited to make him look faster.

WATCH IT AGAIN MORE CLOSELY.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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^the video i posted?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Young R: Could you elaborate on what we're supposed to be looking at? If its the same footage that I have (which I assume it is), I haven't picked up anything odd about it. Not that I'm an expert by any means though...

If anything, he looks just as quick as he does on-screen - where they slowed his movements down so we could view exactly what was happening...
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cayenneguy,Jan 8 2005, 04:16 AM
exceltoexcel - frank dukes was a fraud, do a google on him, there was a book written called "stolen valor" or something like that, it revealed that he was a shonk and crushed a lot of nuthuggers who thought he was the "real deal".
there is only one and that man is "FEDOR EMELIANENKO" - PRIDE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, the best MMA fighter in the world today.
it's so unfortunate that there are still so many traditional martial artists out there who refuse to embrace cross training and can't figure out why that their "horse stance" doesn't work in the real world.
Just because someone writes something doesn't make it true. Frank was real and his record was real and there has been many of times he proved himself at meets and in BBM.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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[QUOTE=NeO SAMuRAI,Jan 8 2005, 02:59 AM] Actually, I believe that Bruce had more penetrative power...he could break 5 suspended boards with one thrust of his leg.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Jan 11 2005, 10:15 AM
Just because some writes something doesn't make it true. Frank was real and his record was real.
thats what i thought.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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[QUOTE=exceltoexcel,Jan 12 2005, 04:38 AM]Dude I've done three held with just the fingers. The term is called speed breaking and 5 is impressive and bill could definitely do it and probably did it more times than anyone we're mentioning here.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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As with street racing, there are many variables with board breaking...I've seen many TKD demonstrations where the "boards" could be broken easily by snapping it with your own hands. I'm not saying that was the case with you, but the type of wood + thickness is definitely one variable that makes a big difference when comparing these feats. Basically it doesn't mean much unless we can make a direct comparison, which is obviously not possible. I believe with Bruce's feat the boards were held together by one hand and were at least an inch thick each. It was demonstrated on a Hong Kong TV show, held by what appears to be a Martial Artist of some sort. (He was wearing a Gi, if memory serves me)
Typically its #2 shelving pine 12x12. So if he used 5inch thick oak then of course it is different.

I notice you chose not to comment on his feats on the heavy bag? I doubt Bill Wallace could duplicate Bruce's feats on the heavy bag, when fighters on par with him at the time could barely budge it.
What is there to comment about I can imagine he did it and I can imagine Bill could as well

As Bruce would say "boards don't hit back"
I can also tell you, board-breaking holds little value in a ring fight, or indeed a streetfight. But you should already know this...
Yeah and I have my own form of self defence it's called smith and wesson. Breaking boards show skill and the purpose originally was to learn how to penatrate the wooden armor at the time.

You might not use cresent or hook kicks often but they are executed nearly the same and moo duk kwan and chang mok kwan are the TKD styles i practiced in
I have my black belt by the World Chang Moo Kwan Federation by Grandmaster Lee. There is 7 styles of tae kwon do and arguably more. Mostly if it's korean then it's grouped under TKD.

Dan Inosanto was incredible. The point I intended to make was that he accredited the power and speed of his side kick to Rhee. Everyone has there own style within a style but he learned it from Rhee.

Well BB magazine went through a lot of trouble to show that he knew his technique by breaking the fifth board. What claims has he made that you don't belive. his past fighting experiences? He's still respected and he's been supported by a martial artist "super 'T'". Never heard of him but he was given his belt by Joe Lewis. Again a simple internet search will prove this. I did an internet search to find any web site that says what you're claiming and i havn't seem to find one but I've found some mention of him in high regard.
here it is

Btw, Dim Mak is known as the "death touch" and has nothing to do with breaking boards or bricks. Its a pressure-point strike designed to kill your opponent. Unless what you typed isnt actually a typo, I've never heard of Dim Mok.
I'll try not to insult you here. The point of breaking the last board is exerting enough force for a distance without disturbing the surface. The last board always breaks first (except for defect) because of difflection. This shows dim mak hit someone in the chest while they are standing and "compress the Heart" without breaking a rib. That's the point of the breaking techniques that Frank dukes showed in the BB magazine. i doubt that BBM set up a phoney pictorial.


One of the best parts of Shotokan is the sliding front kick (you might call it something different) but basically you can chase a man nearly 15-20 feet with it easily it's the same technique. Also your side kick with the chambering is the same as ours, or at least the way he did it. I've had the honor of training with an experience Shotokan martial artist. I don't remember his rank in Shotokan but he used me as his beating bag for his TKD black belt test.

I'll hunt down the Bruce fights/matches and get back to you on them, but I'm cetain of it.

No doubt Bruce was fantastic I just gave a possibly of a man with feet faster than Bruce. Please send some links about frank dukes shame.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Muay Thai kicks are executed with the shin & not the in-step/foot, and are extremely powerful. In fact, I've come from competing (albeit amatuer fights) in full-contact karate, and am now moving into the kickboxing arena, and have adapted their kicks for my own use, finding them technically superior in almost every way. I'm also currently training under "Sugar Ray Dolphin", at a Boxing Gym here in order to improve my hands. He is an ex-european boxing champion from back in the 60's. I started training in Shotokan Karate when I was 5 yrs of age, and am also into submission grappling (jiu-jitsu/wrestling)...just to give you a background of myself.
I think we agreed on this? Either way killing the nerve endings in my shin just never appealed to me. It IS A VERY devistating skill to hit with ones shin as the shin is one of the strongest parts of the body. That's why they are so effective in MA tournaments.

Nice training I havn't taught in over ten years now You should look at modern arnis if you ever get a chance I'm sure you'd love it.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Jan 12 2005, 07:15 AM
What is there to comment about I can imagine he did it and I can imagine Bill could as well
LOL @ this...
Obviously you're not reading anything I have to say. The likes of Joe Lewis, Bob Wall and Chuck Norris could barely budge his custom-made heavy bag. They are on par with Bill, not any less. Think about it...
If I'm not wrong, at least one of them (I'll have to check to be sure) is also in a heavier weight class than Bill Wallace. So its safe to assume that at that skill level, he could generate more power.

[QUOTE]Yeah and I have my own form of self defence it's called smith and wesson.
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