web site on getting knowledge about gun ownership?
Originally Posted by stockae92,Feb 23 2011, 02:21 PM
not ccw but everything else 
(i think its very difficult if not impossible to get a ccw license in CA for civilian unless your job requires you to do that)

(i think its very difficult if not impossible to get a ccw license in CA for civilian unless your job requires you to do that)
As for a website... since you are from Cali, this will be the best site, hands down, for you... http://www.calguns.net/
Good luck
best (hand) guns for a beginner:
Glock - i have a model 22. its a full sized .40 cal - more punch than a 9mm, more controllable than a .45 - downside - hard to find ammo, ammo is more than 9mm. i have put about 10,000 rounds though my glock and had maybe 3 or 4 stove pipes, due to a dirty extractor. no part have needed to be replaced.
Smith and Wesson M&P - same benefits as Glock, but looks better, and has interchangeable grip sections for comfort. i also think it has a better grip angle than the glock. ill be buying one, probably in 9mm for my wife.
both guns are extremely reliable, you can buy cheap reload ammo and the gun will eat it right up. i recommend cleaning guns regularly, once every few months while in storage to inspect for rust, and every time after shooting. the good thing with both of the guns mentioned is that you dont really need to clean them that much, its just a habit of mine. both guns are accurate enough to shoot someone where you want to shoot them, you wont be winning any accuracy competitions, but they are good enough to group 2-3 inches at any reasonable home defense distance.
also consider a cheap .22 cal gun in addition to your main gun. whether it be a rifle or a browning buckmark or something. .22 is insanely cheap and you can practice your fundamentals of shooting without dropping tons of money every time your at the range.
best site for you to get info is gonna be calguns.net every gun owner in CA should be a member at calguns. they are doing great things for our 2A here in Cali, and have tons and tons of info. any firearm related question can be answered there, and if you get into firearm trouble, the calguns foundation might even help you out in court.
Glock - i have a model 22. its a full sized .40 cal - more punch than a 9mm, more controllable than a .45 - downside - hard to find ammo, ammo is more than 9mm. i have put about 10,000 rounds though my glock and had maybe 3 or 4 stove pipes, due to a dirty extractor. no part have needed to be replaced.
Smith and Wesson M&P - same benefits as Glock, but looks better, and has interchangeable grip sections for comfort. i also think it has a better grip angle than the glock. ill be buying one, probably in 9mm for my wife.
both guns are extremely reliable, you can buy cheap reload ammo and the gun will eat it right up. i recommend cleaning guns regularly, once every few months while in storage to inspect for rust, and every time after shooting. the good thing with both of the guns mentioned is that you dont really need to clean them that much, its just a habit of mine. both guns are accurate enough to shoot someone where you want to shoot them, you wont be winning any accuracy competitions, but they are good enough to group 2-3 inches at any reasonable home defense distance.
also consider a cheap .22 cal gun in addition to your main gun. whether it be a rifle or a browning buckmark or something. .22 is insanely cheap and you can practice your fundamentals of shooting without dropping tons of money every time your at the range.
best site for you to get info is gonna be calguns.net every gun owner in CA should be a member at calguns. they are doing great things for our 2A here in Cali, and have tons and tons of info. any firearm related question can be answered there, and if you get into firearm trouble, the calguns foundation might even help you out in court.
thanks for the all the info, i am going to take my time about read about it
i also read about .40 vs 9mm. its about energy delivered to the target, number of rounds, cost of ammo and how easy to find ammo, right?
i also read about .40 vs 9mm. its about energy delivered to the target, number of rounds, cost of ammo and how easy to find ammo, right?
Originally Posted by stockae92,Feb 24 2011, 01:40 PM
thanks for the all the info, i am going to take my time about read about it
i also read about .40 vs 9mm. its about energy delivered to the target, number of rounds, cost of ammo and how easy to find ammo, right?
i also read about .40 vs 9mm. its about energy delivered to the target, number of rounds, cost of ammo and how easy to find ammo, right?
I consider the 9mm an insufficient round. Pope John Paul II survived being shot by six 9mm rounds. He would not have survived half as many .45 rounds.
I have a Glock 30, .45 ACP and I've shot several Glock 9mm. At least to me, the difference in felt recoil was very small.
Though I completely agree about get a .22, they're crazy cheap and fun to shoot.
I have a Glock 30, .45 ACP and I've shot several Glock 9mm. At least to me, the difference in felt recoil was very small.
Though I completely agree about get a .22, they're crazy cheap and fun to shoot.
It's insufficient for stopping someone without a well placed shot but, it's perfect for competition because of the accuracy and the amount of rounds it can hold. A .45 is what I would choose for carry though.


