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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Not sure if I understood that statement correctly, but the connotation I got was such that every band existed thereafter was because of the Beatles. I don't disagree that the Beatles had popularized the band genre, but to say that had the Beatles not existed, no band would have existed today and we'd be listening to American Idol du jour simply has no merit. Or perhaps that was not your implication.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Steponme
Not sure if I understood that statement correctly, but the connotation I got was such that every band existed thereafter was because of the Beatles. I don't disagree that the Beatles had popularized the band genre, but to say that had the Beatles not existed, no band would have existed today and we'd be listening to American Idol du jour simply has no merit. Or perhaps that was not your implication.
You didn't read what I said. I did not say, ". . . that every band existed thereafter. . . " The Beach Boys were already around prior to The British Invasion*. However, the notion that a singing group, containing folks that played their own instruments (a novelty) AND wrote their own songs (previously unheard of) could be so popular as to reign supreme in the Top 40 is almost entirely due to The Beatles. The fact that The Beatles had songs they wrote on their first (LP) album was a first in the industry.**

Now, in regards to anything beyond the Top 40, there were going to be bands making all kinds of music before, during and after The Beatles. However, the notion that a band could be "self-contained" (as writing, arranging and performing units) and could also make records (that would be successful) has been largely, if not entirely, attributed to The Beatles.***

The fact that most people, most of the time, assume a "good," or, "real" rock band writes, arranges, and performs is due to The Beatles.

The Beatles success proved that said types of bands could be substantially more lucrative and entertaining than the previous system of singers, songwriters, arrangers, and musicians (instrumentalists).

If you need to be exacting about what I've said, knock yourself out. I'd hate to see you connote anything I denoted, especially now.

*The Beach Boys were very much a band in the conventional sense as we now know it, but without hitting number 1. Their biggest pre-invasion chart topper wasn't written by them. Furthermore, they were (unrightfully) pigeon-holed as Surf Rock, and not Top40 material.
**Eight out of fourteen songs were written by them on said album (Please Please Me)
***FFS, take it up with Rolling Stone, Frank Zappa (The Real Frank Zappa Book), two of my Music History texts, and a cadre of professors over the years.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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I know who he is... but I really don't follow music. I don't find music or art to be "my thing". That doesn't mean I know nothing - just very close to it. My "art" is mathematics, engineering, and physics. Still, I would be very disappointed if an adult did not know simple algebra. I think Paul Mccartney is a large enough name for a person to be expected to "know". Its like an american high school student not knowing where italy was - which isn't unheard of!
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz
Its like an american high school student not knowing where italy was - which isn't unheard of!

I liked when Italy when it was next to Burkina Faso, but now that it's next to Venezuela, it's way better.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 8D_In_Trunk
Originally Posted by d1rtyc4r' timestamp='1329252385' post='21414498
One of my favorite bands is KMFDM. I'm sure Raptor has no clue who they are, and I simply do not care.
The fact that you like listening to a band, any band, is almost entirely due to the popularity of The Beatles. Appreciate that. Without them, we'd mostly be listening to variations of American Idol du jour.

Even then, while Kein Mehrheit Fuer Die Mitlied was good, I think Einsteurzende Neubauten way better down that vein. Even then, they should've just given up after En Esch, but that's my freakin' opinion. Whither too Nitzer Ebb?

None of the pre-Industrial on through the Industrial movement, save Reznor's work, has had anywhere near the reach of The Beatles. You can't refute phenomenology as it's happening, despite your best efforts.

If you want to put The Beatles in some context where your argument has merit, go study the garage movement in Seattle in the early '60's, and then Vanilla Fudge if you want to grind '70's rock wankers down to a nub. Once you've done that, you might sound like you're speaking with a greater sense of passion and appreciation, rather than just simple ignorance.
1. Kein Mitleid Fur Die Mehreit, it's done purposely. Shows how much you know.
2. En Esch is an asshole, no one cared that he left.
3. tl;dr after the first paragraph, your music snobbishness is nauseating. You win.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by d1rtyc4r
1. Kein Mitleid Fur Die Mehreit, it's done purposely. Shows how much you know.
Sorry, It's been the better part of 15 years since I've read any press releases from TVT

2. En Esch is an asshole, no one cared that he left.
As I said, that's just my opinion. . . and yes, I know when I'm in the minority.

3. tl;dr after the first paragraph, your music snobbishness is nauseating. You win.
If that causes you nausea, I fear what The Bard, or a leaflet on gonorrhea might do.

Even then, if you seek camaraderie, go here.
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