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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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wooo wooo getting my PPD out of this thread, eh?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by yogi,Nov 11 2004, 02:17 PM
Are you kidding me? What common software components to OS X and OS 9 share? Hmmmm?
I'm pretty sure he's refering to OS X's UNIX (NeXTSTEP) based kernel.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yogi,Nov 11 2004, 02:13 PM
haha, you love egging us on don't you? shit and i said i'd stop...oh well
MACS RULE!

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by yogi,Nov 11 2004, 03:02 PM
....... As mentioned before, if there were as many mac users as there are windows, macs would have its share of spyware, I don't think there's any argument there..............
Security through obscurity works for me


But I do believe some of Microsoft's practices contribute to the problems..leaving the preview pane ON by default in Outlook for example. The average computer user does not understand things are being downloaded to their computer without their knowledge. Microsoft knows this issue.. but by default preview pane is still left on
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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OS X, to me, is UNIX + excellent GUI.

I've tried various window managers/desktop environments etc on various flavors of UNIX, and they just haven't been good enough IMO for daily use. So for desktop applications I currently still use Windows.

The next computer I buy is going to be a PowerBook (I've been playing around with various Apple laptops/desktops in the Apple Store down the street from here).
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PeaceLove&S2K,Nov 11 2004, 12:39 PM
I'm pretty sure he's refering to OS X's UNIX (NeXTSTEP) based kernel.
That's kindof what I meant, OS 9 and OS X don't share much of anything, there isn't exactly an evolution inside Apple (what I think he was trying to imply). OS X is a totally different animal (which I like, BTW). It's a bunch of other software tweaked and smashed together (with style ). Jobs knows what he's doing.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mikes2k,Nov 11 2004, 12:45 PM
Security through obscurity works for me


But I do believe some of Microsoft's practices contribute to the problems..leaving the preview pane ON by default in Outlook for example. The average computer user does not understand things are being downloaded to their computer without their knowledge. Microsoft knows this issue.. but by default preview pane is still left on
Exactly! Their default configurations aren't very good, but like I said, they're working on them. To look at it from another angle, if you kept the preview pane off...most users wouldn't even know it existed . Stupid, stupid users
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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I'm stupid but at least I'm a stupid Mac user
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PeaceLove&S2K,Nov 11 2004, 12:47 PM
OS X, to me, is UNIX + excellent GUI.

I've tried various window managers/desktop environments etc on various flavors of UNIX, and they just haven't been good enough IMO for daily use. So for desktop applications I currently still use Windows.

The next computer I buy is going to be a PowerBook (I've been playing around with various Apple laptops/desktops in the Apple Store down the street from here).
Yup, exactly. It's really BSD + NeXTSTEP + some other things like Mach, etc. If linux could just get a common framework going, it could (probably) do better. There just isn't enough direction in the community to do somemthing like this...it's sortof a melting pot for open-source creativity.

Darwin runs on x86, and I know there are ports of the UI to x86 floating around Apple, it's just a matter of getting your hands on it.

I'm sure you guys have heard of VMWare or VirtualPC. PearPC is software that emulates PowerPC architecute, but it's fairly new and has a long way to go. Check out http://pearpc.sourceforge.net . I've got OS X running on it...slow, but it works.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by yogi,Nov 11 2004, 03:56 PM
Exactly! Their default configurations aren't very good, but like I said, they're working on them. To look at it from another angle, if you kept the preview pane off...most users wouldn't even know it existed . Stupid, stupid users
RTFM RTFM


right working on it...as George said maybe by Longhorn the Os will be up to late model MAC Os standards oh but thats right we are debating hardware costs in here..I cant go there
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