Why are Macs so damn expensive?
Originally Posted by S2000boi,Nov 7 2004, 07:03 PM
bah. why dont u stick to mac mouse. why use a pc mouse... hehehe jk. how does the right click work on mac?
i work with os 10.3 everyday and i hate it. but whatever pays the bills ill have to deal with.
i work with os 10.3 everyday and i hate it. but whatever pays the bills ill have to deal with.
if you want to assign it to a keyboard key you need to install the software, you can open apps with it and everything. very versatile.
the OS is fine with 1 button, but it works just as well with 2 or more
Simply hold ctrl and hit click.. voila! right click.
Anyway, I don't think Macs are all that bad compared to comprable PC systems. But of course the dual G5's are going to be pricey. They are monsters though. If you do graphics or audio work, not only can't a PC hold a candle to it, but the software for Macs is much more extensive. Engineering and gaming should be left to the PC.
As far as Macs go on a daily basis, I've been using an iBook (G4, 14", 1100$ [student discount]) for the past year with ease and no problems whatsoever.
I do some work on my brother's mac with the dual G5's. An amazing machine to say the least.
But you can't compare "numbers" between Macs and PCs. Technically, the iBook is severely underpowered against my desktop, but runs MUCH faster.
Once you go mac you never go back.
Edit: Also, something interesting to check out is on the Apple store site. There's a "calculator" to see how long it'd take to pay off a PowerMac merely off the time saved using it as opposed to what you're running now. Don't think it'll do a student much good, but I thought it was interesting.
Anyway, I don't think Macs are all that bad compared to comprable PC systems. But of course the dual G5's are going to be pricey. They are monsters though. If you do graphics or audio work, not only can't a PC hold a candle to it, but the software for Macs is much more extensive. Engineering and gaming should be left to the PC.
As far as Macs go on a daily basis, I've been using an iBook (G4, 14", 1100$ [student discount]) for the past year with ease and no problems whatsoever.
I do some work on my brother's mac with the dual G5's. An amazing machine to say the least.
But you can't compare "numbers" between Macs and PCs. Technically, the iBook is severely underpowered against my desktop, but runs MUCH faster.
Once you go mac you never go back.

Edit: Also, something interesting to check out is on the Apple store site. There's a "calculator" to see how long it'd take to pay off a PowerMac merely off the time saved using it as opposed to what you're running now. Don't think it'll do a student much good, but I thought it was interesting.
Hey Guys,
I worked for Dell for about 5 years and have also spent some time at Apple. I don't think the price differences between Macs and PC's are as large as what's perceived. Once you're comparing Apples to Apples (so to speak), or rather product line to product line, you'll find that Mac products really aren't much more expensive - if any at all. A good example is the PowerMac G5 - to Dell Workstation mentioned above.
In the cases where they are more expensive I think that it boils down to leveraged R&D. Companies like Dell who are in the PC industry leverage the R&D of other component manufacturers such as Intel, Microsoft and 3Com. It's sort of like they've outsourced R&D and they're just assembling components developed by others in the industry. Apple designs everything itself in-house. From the G5 processor to OSX - its all designed to work together. This is also the reason it works better.
-s
I worked for Dell for about 5 years and have also spent some time at Apple. I don't think the price differences between Macs and PC's are as large as what's perceived. Once you're comparing Apples to Apples (so to speak), or rather product line to product line, you'll find that Mac products really aren't much more expensive - if any at all. A good example is the PowerMac G5 - to Dell Workstation mentioned above.
In the cases where they are more expensive I think that it boils down to leveraged R&D. Companies like Dell who are in the PC industry leverage the R&D of other component manufacturers such as Intel, Microsoft and 3Com. It's sort of like they've outsourced R&D and they're just assembling components developed by others in the industry. Apple designs everything itself in-house. From the G5 processor to OSX - its all designed to work together. This is also the reason it works better.
-s
Originally Posted by PeaceLove&S2K,Nov 7 2004, 07:12 PM
Is that a wire I see on the mouse? 
When I get my PowerBook, I plan to get the bluetooth MX900.

When I get my PowerBook, I plan to get the bluetooth MX900.
reason I didn't go for the MX900= logitech doesn't support it for the Mac OS, supposedly it works, but eh no.
So I went for the MX500, easy, 30 bucks, makes life a lot easier. I have no problems with cords. Hell it's only a powercord, mouse, and sometimes iPod. Wow 3 cords!!! goodness, some people are anuses about that

I was thinking about BT mice, but most are travel sized and or don't have a on/off button. Batteries are a pain to replace. I don't regret my decision either. i just plug it in on the USB port on other side of the PB and it gives me more than enough space to work with.
g5 arent made by apple. and how does an ibook run faster than my desktop. and lets compare price to price performance.


i do alot of photoshop and video editing. its sooo fast compared to the dual g5 i use at my college


i do alot of photoshop and video editing. its sooo fast compared to the dual g5 i use at my college
I'm saying tooling around with documents and pictures generally loads up quicker.
But Pro Tools is useless on my desktop. Photoshop isn't bad, but for an underpowered notebook, it does a better job. And yes, I've run them side by side doing the same operations to prove it.
But I'm well aware of the fact that it's not a gaming machine. While my interest in PC games has pretty much died, that's what the desktop is for when the need arises.
But Pro Tools is useless on my desktop. Photoshop isn't bad, but for an underpowered notebook, it does a better job. And yes, I've run them side by side doing the same operations to prove it.
But I'm well aware of the fact that it's not a gaming machine. While my interest in PC games has pretty much died, that's what the desktop is for when the need arises.
We have established that Macs work with pictures better. Ok, now give me a reason to Spend $3000 on a picture editor for someone one doesn't work in graphics? You can buy a $500 computer for Surfing, emailing, office apps, and it will STILL play games better than a Mac. So why would someone buy a mac who doesn't edit pictures?





