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Old Dec 5, 2000 | 09:45 PM
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Hey people-

Nice speculation...

Here's the facts as up to date as I know.

The new Nissan chairman from Renault loves the Skyline GT-R, but absolutely hates the 20+ chassis that Nissan builds currently- so the Skyline chassis is due to be scrapped.

The GT-R moniker will be used on the new super car, but it presents a marketing problem for Nissan- traditionally the Z car has always been the image leader, but the GT-R will usurp that role. This will create tension within the Nissan corporate structure, and actually has yet to be shaken out. There are two distinct factions within the Nissan corporate arena that either likes the Skyline GT-R or the 300ZX. The 300ZX people had won most of the corporate strategic battles in the late 80's and early 90's, which reflected on the 300ZX world car status, and the GT-R's domestic-only status, with a handful going to other right hand drive countries.

There will be a left hand drive version of the new car.

There is a 50% chance the USA marketplace will receive it. By default, there is also a 50% chance the USA marketplace won't receive it. Although the US may want it, it probably doesn't fit into their marketing structure, or their image (my opinion is that Nissan USA has no image to worry about...).

There is no pricing on the car right now. I would assume it will be rather expensive, maybe significantly more than the current R34 N1 version. It may or may not come with a V8. It may or may not be turbocharged ( I don't see how it can be, with emissions laws the way they are). It will be a technological "tour de force" like the BNR-32 Skyline GT-R.

As long as we get the real thing, who cares what it'll look like... As long as it's fast, faster than anything else out there at up to twice the price, it'll be a champ, especially if it's tuner friendly. If not, then it's a dud.

The pictures above are only artists' renderings. There's no factual proof that they are based on anything concrete, which is pretty obvious when it's supposed to come out more than 3 years from now...

Oh- by the way, my car's in good shape. We ran it at Palmdale to get some performance figures. Third gear died three runs in... totally stripped. Anyone with experience with Nissans will know that third is a "bad" gear on all of them (yes, ALL Nissan manual transmissions). In any case, we ran the car one more time without third, and still got a 12.9 second 1/4 mile run (shifting 1-2-4) and a $100 check from the IDRC people for qualifying 8th in the street car class... Not too shabby for a Michelin Pilot Sport tires, stock tire pressures, street boost, 92 octane gas, full interior, 18" wheels, CARB legal car. Oh- and it's tuned for the One Lap, so it's conservative tuning as all heck too! Currently we have the car tuned @ 530HP@ the wheels, 430ft/lbs torque @5000rpm-8500rpm, and useable boost from 3500rpm on... Not too bad for a 8 year old car, but we think that it may have about 50-100HP, and 80-100ft/lbs torque lurking around with more precise tuning, which we'll do after we scotch pad, shot peen, and cryo ALL the gearbox internals. That should take care of the "rocks in the trans" problems!

-Nick
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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Mindcore:
It was my understanding that the japanese could make the car as powerfull as they want they just can't ADVERTISE anything over 280. But I could be wrong.

Oops, you are right. They just cannot say it has more than 280ps.

BUT, I seriously doubt that Japanese goverment will allow manufactures to sell cars that actually makes 450ps to be rated as 280ps, like some people said. It is not a law, but this agreement between manufactures was done with a strong guidance of the government.

Did you know that ALL Japanese cars sold in Japan are limited top speed of 180k/h or 113mph? Even if you cut a speed limitter, S2000 speedo do not show numbers above 180. Or they used to have a bell that rung if you go above 90 to 100k/h, till early 90's? These rule do not make sense at all since any of them are not applyed to cars manufactured outside of Japan, unless manufactures limit top speed themselves.

I understand that new Japanese spots cars will be avairable well above 280hp here. I just wonder how car makers will get through these stupid rules.
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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 08:02 PM
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ENZO-

It is my understanding that Nissan is currently negotiating the release of the power limit agreement the manufacturers have with the government, because, quite frankly, it makes their higher echelon cars uncompetitive when comparing specs.

I've driven my GT-R with the governer, and also without boost (turbos busted). It sucked, both times...

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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 09:56 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by GTRPower:
[B]ENZO-

It is my understanding that Nissan is currently negotiating the release of the power limit agreement the manufacturers have with the government, because, quite frankly, it makes their higher echelon cars uncompetitive when comparing specs.

I've driven my GT-R with the governer, and also without boost (turbos busted).
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