[QUOTE=timrocks311,Oct 4 2007, 10:25 AM] So i've been married 5 months now and i'm already getting the "you're never romantic" crap that every woman dishes out.

 

Sorry bro but you made your bed and now you have to lay in it...

I just don't understand why people get married, especially at such young ages... Dont get me wrong there are those 10% of marriages that actually work... But come on...things are constantly changing, and we no longer need marriage in our society.

I cant even convince myself to commit myself to a steady relationship... Maybe its because i think too logically, but why in the world would I want to stay with one person my whole life?

You've got one kick at the bucket, so ya better experience everything you can while you can... sometimes that means being on your own (scary thought for some). But hey if youre lucky enough to find that one person who you can enjoy it with then by all means god bless you.

I dont mean to come down on you personally its just my current point of view on marriages (like i said, things change including point of views). I think a lot of people get married for the wrong reasons, and I really cant sympathize for them.

As for you situation about the flowers... Here's my two bits... Women think emotionally... you think logically... ie. I bought her flowers before and she just didnt care, and she was disapointed a didnt get her any.

Here's one way you can play it... Switch the emotional table on her, and tell how she doesnt appreciate you, and use the example of when you got the flowers for her. Then leave and say you need some time alone (call up your buddies and get smashed, lol!!!!) Come home she'll be pissed that youre drunk, but tell her you just dont know anyother way to deal with it. Tell her you're so fustrated and all you want to do is be there for her and make her happy...(explain it in a sympathetic manner)

Then you'll be a champ in her eyes, get the make up sex... and this is a good time to attempt to stick it in the stinker!!! Good luck.

 

If she drops that bomb again hit her with a Dutch Oven and laugh all the way to Divorce Court.

 

[QUOTE=timrocks311,Oct 7 2007, 06:50 PM]thanks for all the responses guys...some more than others.

 

You guys crack me up and make me glad I'm not going to you for advice, all at the same time.

I've never seen such horrible marriage advice.

What happened to WANTING to make your spouse happy? My wife will tell you that I'm not the cuddly, lovey-dovey type but I still try and do that occasionally because it makes her happy. Just like she lets me go away for a weekend to watch racing, see a car show, or even be around people she couldn't care less about. Heck, sometimes she'll even go with me if she doesn't have a prior commitment. She doesn't enjoy it but she does it for my sake.

It's all about give and take and mostly what I see here is a lot of taking and no willingness to give. Showing love, affection, or consideration is not "unmanly". I don't think you need to be bringing flowers home every day (or week) or whatever but I would imagine that semi-regular displays of affection would be perfectly normal.

Women are, by nature, unpredictable. That's the only predictable thing about them. So, in addressing the OP's situation, I can sympathize - he tried flowers before and they didn't work, yet they were requested the second time.

My advice? Suck it up, explain why you didn't get flowers, and do something else for/with her. There is a certain element of needing to explain to a woman how her past behaviour is used to determine future actions. Some responsibility has to go back to her, that's for sure. To just try and smooth it over would mean you're pussywhipped.

I just wouldn't explain it to her while she's ticked off. Eat humble pie, acquiesce to her "needs", and then later explain yourself. Make sure that she understands that you can only react based on her actions and if she's always acting differently in a certain situation, she'll never get the "proper" response from you for the rest of her life.

 

i find a D!ck in the Box works for any occasion

special gift

 

Its always a good time to stick it there.

 

jonboy, i think you just lucked out and married a cool girl. most women take kindness from men as a sign of weakness. sad but true.

 

Jon you must have found that 0.001% of women who are responsible and good wifes, unfortunately 8D and Mindset are dead on. Women today dont get married for love and their man, its about their needs. One thing that constatnly reinforces this for me is when I am out on a date with a girl I ask her things she can expect from a man and trust me, she goes on and on and on.... When I ask her what a man should expect from her, that shuts her up into dead silence.

Girls today are raised with a daddys little girl attitude and completely shun integrity and responsibility; with this one, current boyfriend, isnt exactly perfect in every aspect, ditch em because theres 15 more inline. Guys are to blame most times too because I have seen too many pussified dudes who care "Too" much about what a girl thinks or too scared to standup for himself and be a man, dump the bitch, just as many of her out there as well.

Honestly, I think men are as much to blame because its the daddy that treats the little girl like daddys little girl who can do no wrong, dont accept responsibility for your actions someone else is always to blame becasue your daddys little girl.

I have seen same shit time after time after time with dudes being stupid and getting burned with some girl who isnt grown up, mature and responsible about a 2 way relationship, youre right, it is give and take. I dont agree on a relationship being 50/50, I think both people should give 100% to make the other happy and not just 50.

It does, however, annoy me of the insanely large number of spoiled bitches who assume I owe them something because they look good, and you would be amazed how nice and sweet they become when I pay their tantrums absolutely no attention and walk out, its like they become miss right for alittle bit.

So to the OP, I hope things work out for ya in the long run, good luck bro.

 

I'd like to point out in JonBoy's defense, that he didn't "luck out." He married a woman who's background was such where the expectations were clear; moreover, she morally agrees with said expectations. JonBoy himself is no different. As such, their marriage does work within it's own context.

Oddly enough, you'll find that while JonBoy and I used decidedly different language in explaining our solutions, the actualities of the solutions are more similar than not. Namely, communicate the expectations clearly.