I'll agree that I'm lucky but I'll also point out that most of "luck" can be removed by dating carefully. I know that I can usually predict what a woman is REALLY like within an hour or two of spending time with her (sometimes within minutes).

I don't know how guys miss picking up that a girl is selfish, egotistical, spoiled, or petulant. It's patently obvious, most of the time.

 

[QUOTE=Kyushin,Oct 8 2007, 11:52 PM]Jon you must have found that 0.001% of women who are responsible and good wifes, unfortunately 8D and Mindset are dead on.

 

so what advice would anyone suggest if a girl gets high everyday (like after school) and on the weekends likes to drink (not much) and likes to spend time with her friends more on weekends but you only get to see her when she gets off work on the weekdays and maybe a sunday? Reason I ask because I have heard a lot of good advice from JonBoy and funny yet really good advice from 8D in the trunk and some others here

 

Ishbu, if this is youre girl, she sounds like a rotten egg. If she prioritizes her friends and drugs over you then there is a definite problem in the picture. There is another good relationship advice guru I trade ideas with and he has a philosophy called "Chumps and Fu-ckers". The chump is the guy that rarely, if ever, gets sex and is only there as a security blanket when the F-er (guy she wants to bone hard) is not around for her. If a girl is genuine and into you, you will have no questions in the matter! If shes a whore, you will constantly wonder whats going on and where she is, no matter how cool you are with things. Women are only flaky and indecisive towards you if you are not their first choice. So you tell her that she needs to either loose the drugs or you, you will find better, hell, I know plenty of nice girls lookin for a good dude. But even a good girl willl turn to shit if a dude pussifies on her.

 

im going to create a new thread. im not going to ruin the OP's topic

 

Exactly, you couldnt be more correct here! I still just dont understand why some of my bros will put up with this kind of shit from a girl, if shes a bitch, then she can leave. I was out working at Duke University and a friend was having trouble with his gf, so during lunch I set out to proove a point to him. I began to approach some of the most attractive girls I could find and procede to talk and then get their number, and after 7-8 girls, getting their numbers I walked back to the hospital with him and balled up the piece of paper and threw it away. He about went into shock wondering why I would pass off all those beautiful girls, and I told him, its that simple. And when he understands this, he will never have relationship problems with a girl ever again.

After you see something in a girl you dont like, you just gotta move on and let some chump deal with her because daddys little girl is gonna get "her" way.

 

I would say that girl isn't interested in you, not to mention she's trouble if she's getting high on a regular basis. You want to spend quality time with an addict (if there is such a thing)?

What does she do when she's with you? Does she just spend your money and eat your food or is she actually engaging, fun, and affectionate? Is she actually GIVING you anything (and I don't mean sex) or are you just providing something for her and basking in the glow of her presence? Some people will do that just to have the "satisfaction" of being around someone they think is hot/attractive/fun/popular. Most guys are flattered if a hot girl spends time (any amount) with them, but ultimately the girl is often just leeching off of you.

 

It sounds like you need take a lesson from our good friend Sean Connery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0&eurl=

 

eesh. Some interesting advice here, makes me glad I'm out of the dating game. No seriously, its flashbacks to college and they aren't the fun ones.
I've been married for a year. No problems at all, but we dated for several years and did marriage counseling beforehand. Man was counseling worth it, I'd recommend it to anyone seriously thinking of marriage.

OP: Romance is perfectly fine and is needed in marriage OCCASIONALLY. If she expects it everytime then that's something you might want to address when you both are calm or I would recommend instead of roses make it something that you can both enjoy, like a nice dinner or concert/theater/symphony or something. I personally find a symphony to be awesome, she thinks its romantic and its something I can enjoy without falling asleep or going nuts, plus they're only available every few months.

Every now and then you can go nuts with the roses and chocolates but don't let her expect it. It's better to occasionally surprise than to constantly disappoint.

 

In it's lowest terms, dating is a giant Skinner box. Lots of people want you to be the rat. . . but you can in fact, be the box.