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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tenenika
Originally Posted by JHooby' timestamp='1308036228' post='20680006
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current setup: Front 16x7.5
Rear 16x9


what offset & tire sizes are you running ?
+35 205/45/16
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it's your tires sizes that are making your car look so sunk, not the camber.
with +35 offset and 16x9 in the rear, it will be Flush with 245/45/16's in the rear.



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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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^ That has something to do with it, but the car has way too much camber. Camber pulls the top of the tire in towards the car. If he backs the camber out it will push the top of the tire out and the effect will be more flushness.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by spunkysandoval
^ That has something to do with it, but the car has way too much camber. Camber pulls the top of the tire in towards the car. If he backs the camber out it will push the top of the tire out and the effect will be more flushness.
Not as much as you think. Camber on S2k's are adjusted from the lower control arm. While you will see a slight difference in the top, most of the movement will be the tire at the bottom.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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It's still camber. However its adjusted, its still the same.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SLAMMED
LMAO....someone actually gave me negattive rep for a comment that had no maliciousness to it at all.
No idea why that post was negged. In any event, I fixed it for ya.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SLAMMED
LMAO....someone actually gave me negattive rep for a comment that had no maliciousness to it at all.

I could draw you a diagram, but it would take forever. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, but since the pivot point is at the bottom you will see less improvement in the gap up top than at the bottom. If you had adjustable upper control arms or spc joints however you would see a greater diffrence in closing the upper gap.
As long as the camber angle is the same, it really doesn't matter where it's adjusted. It has the same effect.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 06:49 AM
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He has a point about the SPC camber joints. -5 degrees of camber adjusted on the upper control arm will net more clearance at the top of the wheel well.

However, this doesn't change the fact the car in question needs to back the camber out to get some more flushness. A x9 +35 wheel should have some poke beyond the fender. In the posted pics, it definitely looks to be just barely flush if not sunk.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SLAMMED
Originally Posted by alexisthemovie' timestamp='1308188895' post='20687186
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LMAO....someone actually gave me negattive rep for a comment that had no maliciousness to it at all.

I could draw you a diagram, but it would take forever. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, but since the pivot point is at the bottom you will see less improvement in the gap up top than at the bottom. If you had adjustable upper control arms or spc joints however you would see a greater diffrence in closing the upper gap.
As long as the camber angle is the same, it really doesn't matter where it's adjusted. It has the same effect.
Not true, I ran 5 degrees of camber in the rear consistantly and with factory adjustment I could not fit my setup. By putting a set of SPC's and adding camber through the upper control arm and then returning the oem camber adjustment to 5 degrees, I then had the clearance I needed. Were not talking feet here but it does have a large effect on where the adjustment is made. Ive aligned my car about 5 times within the past 2 months trying to get it where I was happy.

Although you will see more of a difference in the front than the rear and I have yet to figure out why.
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Can you explain your theory? It still doesn't make sense to me.

You can see a bigger difference in clearance in the front because the stock adjustment is fairly limited (I got -6.4 out of my factory rear and -3.6 out of my factory front adjustment). The SPC joints can add a lot of camber by just sliding the ball joint in, but once you push the toe out to compensate (Toe adjustment is on the bottom), you lose a lot of that clearance. To me, it's the same, but perhaps the LCA adjustment causes the car to lower more when you camber more and that's where you're finding your difference in clearance.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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a lot of fail going on lately.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SLAMMED
Originally Posted by alexisthemovie' timestamp='1308255055' post='20690227
[quote name='ALWAYS_SLAMMED' timestamp='1308199410' post='20687572']
[quote name='alexisthemovie' timestamp='1308188895' post='20687186']
[quote name='ALWAYS_SLAMMED' timestamp='1308176416' post='20686650']
LMAO....someone actually gave me negattive rep for a comment that had no maliciousness to it at all.

I could draw you a diagram, but it would take forever. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, but since the pivot point is at the bottom you will see less improvement in the gap up top than at the bottom. If you had adjustable upper control arms or spc joints however you would see a greater diffrence in closing the upper gap.
As long as the camber angle is the same, it really doesn't matter where it's adjusted. It has the same effect.
Not true, I ran 5 degrees of camber in the rear consistantly and with factory adjustment I could not fit my setup. By putting a set of SPC's and adding camber through the upper control arm and then returning the oem camber adjustment to 5 degrees, I then had the clearance I needed. Were not talking feet here but it does have a large effect on where the adjustment is made. Ive aligned my car about 5 times within the past 2 months trying to get it where I was happy.

Although you will see more of a difference in the front than the rear and I have yet to figure out why.
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Can you explain your theory? It still doesn't make sense to me.

You can see a bigger difference in clearance in the front because the stock adjustment is fairly limited (I got -6.4 out of my factory rear and -3.6 out of my factory front adjustment). The SPC joints can add a lot of camber by just sliding the ball joint in, but once you push the toe out to compensate (Toe adjustment is on the bottom), you lose a lot of that clearance. To me, it's the same, but perhaps the LCA adjustment causes the car to lower more when you camber more and that's where you're finding your difference in clearance.
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This is true.

I cant explain it on here but you can do it with a pencil(the hub) and some pennies(control arms).
1.Two penies both top(upper arm) and bottom(lower arm) and the pencil is perfectly vertical. Draw a line.
2.Add a pennie to the bottom(factory adjustment). Draw a line.
3.Now return the original 2 pennies to the bottom and remove a pennie from the top(spc or equivalent). Draw a line.

The amount of camber remains the same, but the first line is further out.
If this confuses the crap out of you I understand.... .
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Unless I am picturing this wrong, you'd end up with 2 parallel slanted lines...

I still don't buy it. When you pull the top in, the bottom is effectively pushed out. Same thing when you do the opposite.
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