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Old May 22, 2008 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,May 21 2008, 09:37 PM

Oh yeah...Change isnt an acceptable answer?!?! Riiight.
Yes-'change' isn't an acceptable answer. What is he going to change? Does it even need to be changed? What if it becomes worse?
Old May 22, 2008 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by zdave87,May 22 2008, 03:05 AM
Yes-'change' isn't an acceptable answer. What is he going to change? Does it even need to be changed? What if it becomes worse?
Every administration offers the promise of change, dave, even Republican administrations. So then the real question is whether the voters want change and the chance of a liberal leaning administration or change and the chance of a conservative leaning administration.

I think that fact that a sizeable number of voters are so in favor of change answers yuor question--"Does it even need to be changed?"--in the affirmative. Changing the course of the country is a valid pursuit of policy.
Old May 22, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by zdave87,May 22 2008, 03:05 AM
Does it even need to be changed? What if it becomes worse?
Yes things do need to change. If things become worse, then his opponent in 4years deserves to mop the floor with him.


Originally Posted by jman77v309,May 21 2008, 10:48 PM
I speak for myself when i say that my vote (whether or not its contested cuz its hanging off the ballot)will be my representation for that much needed 360.
please dont beat on me for my opinion.. i did serve my country and i have voted democrat and republican for presidential elections so i do look at a candidate individually,not on political affiliations.(not saying anyone does) peace and love to all..
Old May 22, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zdave87,May 22 2008, 06:05 AM
What is he going to change? Does it even need to be changed? What if it becomes worse?
Dave.... Dave... Dave.

Are you REALLY asking these questions?

The most important thing he will change is that Bush won't be in the White House.

Does this need to be changed?
Well, I believe his approval rating is hovering BELOW 20%. So, I'd say that the majority of people agree that we need a change.

What if it becomes worse?
Can it get any worse? Buch single-handedly took an event (9-11) and managed to take something that had rallied the rest of the world behind us, and caused us to become isolated from the rest of the world.

He then used it to scare up votes to win the '04 election.

He has taken away numerous freedoms and constitutional rights in the name of "preventing teeeerrrrrerrrrism".


This country needs an image makeover. Barack Obama is the Answer. Stop fighting it, man.


** WARNING!! CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT!! **

Does anyone else find it a little interesting that when Bush became president gas was like $1.50 a gallon, and that as he (thank God) is about to leave gas will be around $5.00 a gallon?

Do you think that the people (big oil) that put him in and kept him in power are upset at all by these developments?
Old May 22, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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wow i cant belive some of my friends still suport bush after what he has done to this country.
Old May 22, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by xupthree60,May 22 2008, 09:16 AM
wow i cant belive some of my friends still suport bush after what he has done to this country.


Support for McCain is de facto support for Bush's policies.
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by zdave87,May 22 2008, 06:05 AM
Yes-'change' isn't an acceptable answer. What is he going to change? Does it even need to be changed? What if it becomes worse?
my friend, i think worse would mean a head first dive into WW3. we are already fighting for resources. rice is actually being rationed in this country, the dollar's value dwindles around the value of canada's dollar (nothing against our canadian neighbors) yet simultaneously we spend more on nation building than has been spent on any war we've been involved.
We definitely needed to do SOMETHING after the attack on sept 11. Maybe Bush was the perfect man for that job at the time, I dont know. But PLEASE dont tell us that you dont see theres a need for change. i am not saying obama is that person cuz clinton may well be or mccain
By the way, the only reason I was using the whole Canadian dollar example when referring to the horrible depreciation of our dollar is because I remember when i was in the Navy in the mid 90's our dollar was about 1.5 times more valuable than their dollar and thats no where the case nowadays. I also find it embarrassing that we have to ration ANYTHING in this country *national anthem playing* and we are not championing a health care system for all our people when they sure as hell take enough money out of us come tax time and let me not even touch on social security.
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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i say don't vote for anyone. Let's stop depending on people who are well known for their interest in aquiring the position and then taking advantage of it for their own personal interests (try naming anyone who hasn't ... and if you do that just means they were never caught)

ok ... i'm done I'll just let delloit roll his eyes at me again
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Wow, what have I started here!
I didn't know we had such a vocal group of Bush hater's here!

Anyway be careful what you wish for... Most of europe has a health plan that takes care of everyone and at no cost... unless of course you don't mind paying 50% income tax...
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Oh yeah and their gas costs over $9.00 per gallon... That darn Bush!



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