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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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If this is identical to the Megan EZ Street series then it's a good buy.
Define identical. 6061-T6 aluminum looks identical to 6061-T0 aluminum, but is ~5x stronger. Looks aren't enough. This is a classic case of "you get what you pay for" ...as with just about everything in life. Your statement implies that Megan EZs are a good buy. I won't say anything negative because I haven't owned a set, but I suspect this is flawed logic.
I can't make an argument either coz' I know nothing about suspension but what I was saying is that if MDU is identical (not just in looks but in terms of composition) to the Megan coilover say their EZ street version then it's a decent buy in terms of $$$$. Again these coilover parts are apparently ubiquitous in some parts of China and you can order them specifically to your requirement at a certain quantity and put up your own kit. That is why Megan Racing does not rebuild theirs for the reason that it's much cheaper to just buy the part that you need, say $115 for a shock and $115 for a pair springs. Now for the material quality it's probably up to what is being ordered. I can imagine a shock body can made out of any alloy for the price.

Megans EZ probably a good buy for the asking price and to a certain usage yes but I don't know that for certain. My logic is that buying would be a good experience if you factor affordability. You do indeed "get what you pay for" but you can also pay for what you're getting. Meaning getting what you can actually use and enjoy not just what other people think is good. I'm saying that a good coilover is definitely a good buy but only if it serves it's purpose for a given period of time. Now if $500 is all you budget for a so called suspension upgrade and you can justify that then this MDU is it for you. But if you can wait a bit longer and save a bit more then you will have other options. Better? Maybe......if you have the skills to put it to test I guess.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gotap1
Foolish of me I did not even check the link. Well this has been a question I direly wanted to ask about these seemingly cheap or rather affordable coilovers. WHY are they cheaper? From the looks of it they seem to resemble other brands. Are they pretty much the same stuff just assembled by a different company? As this case MDU. I assume you can buy these coilover parts in say China and then you can put them together at your desired spec. If you happened to read through the FAQ page of Megan Racing they mentioned that altho' their coilovers are not rebuildable, you can buy replacement parts for their set to fix what ever is broken in your set (they also mentioned that the internals of their shocks resembles that of the Bilsteins). So it makes me think that in China you can source say a shock to your spec base on your spring rate just like as companies like BC Racing or Fortune Auto would put coilovers together base on the Swift springs of your choice. I highly doubt that they make all of the parts of their coilovers. Just like watches you can put together a good wrist watch by sourcing the parts. The only brand that makes all of their own parts is Rolex. So I think in coilovers I would think there's probably also a few left.

So given the facts would it be safe to concur that the best coilover set is the one base on your need and usage? If you would own the S for a long time then it would be logical to source a set that will offer you good service in terms of cost of rebuild, turn around time or even the question of the company still being around.

Now this said coilover has a buy it now price of $300 + shipping of $150. If this is identical to the Megan EZ Street series then it's a good buy.

That $150 is shipping...from China...you're still getting a $300 set of full coilovers, and that's the price of a set of great aftermarket springs...something is definitely WRONG with this picture. The brand is listed in the link as MDU. The picture in the ad is not even of the actual coilovers (Surface Finish: YELLOW,BLUE)...those aren't yellow and blue!
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Now for the material quality it's probably up to what is being ordered. I can imagine a shock body can made out of any alloy for the price.

Now if $500 is all you budget for a so called suspension upgrade and you can justify that then this MDU is it for you. But if you can wait a bit longer and save a bit more then you will have other options. Better? Maybe......if you have the skills to put it to test I guess.
The material example was just to illustrate that it is impossible to visually tell the difference between some details. I didn't mean to imply that a 40ksi material was required for a damper tube.

I agree with your statement, for the most part. The bold part is really what I was getting at. The stock suspension works really well for a chassis that was mass produced. You can bet they (Honda & Showa) put in some engineering time behind the design to obtain the balance, performance, reliability and affordability they wanted. I bet you're right about the MDUs - they're probably very similar to another series of dampers that a given Chinese manufacturer produces. Chances are, they're a copy or based on some other design that doesn't have the engineering time behind it and thus the pedigree & performance to call it an "upgrade". But I digress....most people could slap these on, drop their car 1.5", be thrilled with the new appearance & "sporty" ride, and be happy with their purchase.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nmrado
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Now for the material quality it's probably up to what is being ordered. I can imagine a shock body can made out of any alloy for the price.

Now if $500 is all you budget for a so called suspension upgrade and you can justify that then this MDU is it for you. But if you can wait a bit longer and save a bit more then you will have other options. Better? Maybe......if you have the skills to put it to test I guess.
The material example was just to illustrate that it is impossible to visually tell the difference between some details. I didn't mean to imply that a 40ksi material was required for a damper tube.

I agree with your statement, for the most part. The bold part is really what I was getting at. The stock suspension works really well for a chassis that was mass produced. You can bet they (Honda & Showa) put in some engineering time behind the design to obtain the balance, performance, reliability and affordability they wanted. I bet you're right about the MDUs - they're probably very similar to another series of dampers that a given Chinese manufacturer produces. Chances are, they're a copy or based on some other design that doesn't have the engineering time behind it and thus the pedigree & performance to call it an "upgrade". But I digress....most people could slap these on, drop their car 1.5", be thrilled with the new appearance & "sporty" ride, and be happy with their purchase.
Sadly life is so mysteriously unfair. These guys are so happy with their overly upgraded designed S2000 LOL. They even can't drive it half way of what the S can do stock and they upgrade it with feel good results. So I guess I'm learning a lesson here. Our S can take both abuses. The pro and not so pro. "Please St. Honda grant me the will to with stand the thrill and suspense of my car can offer and most of all the budget to keep up with the demands of the aftermarket obstructions so that I can continue to focus in honing the factory given skills of thy 4 wheeled beast" lol.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Hehe I was just saying that purple s2 is on mdu coil overs and to me that car is pretty nice. My honest opinion (not that it matters) people will always argue real vs rep or expensive vs cheap but seriously for the guys that only want to lower there cars and will never see the track what's wrong with coilovers at 1/3 the cost of other coilovers ? Even if it only lasts 1 year and it blows you could still replace it 3 more times before it ever reaches the cost of more reputable generic coil overs I say this because I'm running these and they have not given me any problems at all. If you want a track setup buy some ohlins for 3000, if you want something to lower your car that's cheap buy some mdu for 300 bucks, sooner or later these will catch on like fire and everyone will be buying these bad boys haha just you wait! Although if anything bad happens I'll let you know I've only had them for about 2 months now
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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I wouldnt touch those things with a 10 foot pole.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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buy them and report back

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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Back S2k
buy them and report back

goodluck

I got them on my car overall decent they Feel softer than stock suspension probably a bad thing. But I lowered my car for 400 bucks and I drive from A to B just fine
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