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Old May 13, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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Have read-up on quite a few brake (pad) threads. My situation:
  • Approx 5-6 track days/year
  • Car will have F.I., fwiw
  • Track rubber
  • Drive on the street a couple times a week
  • Not up for switching pads at track days - switching rubber is enough
  • I tend to be heavy on the brakes on the track (improper, but that is my style)
  • Do not care about a little bit of noise on the street
  • Have black wheels, so can tolerate some dusting
  • Currently have some type of dimpled/vaned EBC rotors (solid in rear, hollow in the front) with Redstuff pads - installed by previous owner. Disks appear quite new.
  • Not concerned with some lack of cold bite/grip on the street
At this time, I do not plan on changing or turning rotors. I was initially looking at EBC Yellowstuff, but found so many poor reviews on this forum, I think I will reconsider. Read a lot about Ferodo DS2500, but quite a few experienced very high temps (due to coeff of friction?) and resulting cracked rotors with these pads on the track. A lot of praise for Carbotech XP8 and/or XP10; however, Carbotech explicity states you must use new or freshly turned rotors; my rotors are in great shape, but not sure if one of their concerns is with the non-Carbotech pad brake-in material being on/in the surface of the rotor - do you really need to turn them if they are in very good shape? Another option is the Dixcel Type Z or R01 - way expensive, but a lot of praise on the UK forums.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:32 AM
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I have the Dixcels although I have no engine mods at all. They are supposed to work better with the Dixcel discs (Rotors to you) (they would say that, though wouldn't they).

The R-01s wear the discs more than the Type-Z do.


Whilst I'm not especially hard on the brakes, these work very well and allow for lots of track time (now the tyres give up before the brakes do - I'm on road rubber).

A few other guys use these who are much harder on the brakes than me and use trackday tyres, and have nothing but praise for them.

It'd also be worth looking into the Ferodo DS3000 which are apparently very good (recommended to me by a fellow Dixcel user).#

I guess there's no need for me to mention that getting some better brake fluid is essential (I use Motul RBF600).

At a recent track day here, we were able to measure some temperatures - the Dixcels were running over 100C cooler than OEM on cars following one another round.

Pics and vids here: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/843...h/page__st__80

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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Cobalt or Carbotech pads. It will depend on the track/s that you visit as to which model will be best. The type of pad material on the rotor is what Carbotech is concerned with. Cobalt/Carbotech can be mixed. at 5/6 track days per year you may want to consider the accord brake upgrade. It might cut down on the amount of pads you go through and rotors.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Well, just looked at the rotors and whoever put them on left out the retaining screws! Two of the rotors need to be removed and rotated on the hubs so that the retaining screw holes line up with the hubs.................... So, guess I will get them turned.

The Carbotechs (XP8 and/or XP10) - I know they do not recommend for the street, but how are they on the street? Much noise? Enough bite at colder temps?
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Old May 13, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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You can run them on the street. It isn't till you get to the xp12 that cold bite is a question.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by scareyourpassenger
Cobalt or Carbotech pads. It will depend on the track/s that you visit as to which model will be best. The type of pad material on the rotor is what Carbotech is concerned with. Cobalt/Carbotech can be mixed. at 5/6 track days per year you may want to consider the accord brake upgrade. It might cut down on the amount of pads you go through and rotors.
What is the Accord upgrade all about?
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