34witt

I am currently here in Germany about 40 mins from the Ring. I have only riden in cars out there because my s2000 is currently on a boat. My first impression of the Ring is that I really need a brake upgrade. Should I upgrade just pads, or, rotors, vents, calipers, ect?

This is not at all my daily driver so they can be loud and lousey when cold. I don't want to break the bank but am open to any and all ideas.

c32b

i would say vents and pads first. a good brake duct system will lower temps to a level that wont heat soak all the components (rotors, pads etc) and keep your fluids from boiling.

i have a good ducting system that operates on calipers and rotors on front and rear that allows me to go on til I run out of gas without significant fade on ferodo ds2500. And this lasts for >5 track days ( i just didnt change out the fluids as an experiment how long they could last me)

34witt

Did you make your own brake ducting or is there a kit available for the S2000?

c32b

I got a shop to do a kit (price was reasonable as I know the shop pretty well). I am quite sure a shop that you know well could do the very same. Do you want pics?

34witt

If you could that would be great.

INTJ

I suspect that you could do it with just vents front and rear and decent pads. The BBS is a TON of euros, and given that track you are going to destroy pads and disks if you don't vent.

c32b

will try to get pics asap.

34witt

One of my friends on here destroyed is stock s2k brakes in just one lap. Thats why I posted before I did the same to mine. I think I will go with brake ducts, a nice set of pads (any recomendations?) and stainless steel lines for better pedal feel.

Harpoon

Did your friend have aftermarket pads on? I'd try just a good set of Carbotech pads first before messing with the ducting. The ring has a bunch of speed and you shouldn't need the cooling. A lot of guys who race this car competitively don't use ducting and they're on tracks with much shorter distances between breaking areas.

34witt

The North loop which is what I will primarily be running has 73 turns. About 15 of those are hard braking turns. The Corvette I was riding in was good for one lap on Hawk HPS pads and aftermarket rotors. The E92 M3 had about the same set-up and it also was only good for about 1 lap. I want to be able to run consecutive laps in my s2000. Not 1 lap, wait 15 mins for cool down and then another.

My friends s2k was off the showroom floor stock as far as the brakes are concerned. Little engine work but nothing serious.

I dont think its the distance between braking. They are not braking as hard or as long. A couple sections the Vette was at 135-140 down to 50-60. Thats a lot of heat generated right there. Granted the Corvette and E92 carry a little more weight and speed but they also have bigger rotors to help compensate for it.