DanielB

I'm planning to swap an AP2 rear subframe into my AP1 over the winter and it looks like I'll be opening up the brake lines to separate them from the brackets. I currently have the original OEM rubber lines and they are visually in good condition - no cracks, nicks etc but they are now 18 years old. I don't care about the bling factor from SS lines - I just want to be safe on the track (I did 15 days this year).

Rear calipers are stock and are going to stay that way as I switched to URGE rotors and ducting and am happy with that setup.

I figure there are three options:

1. replace with stainless steel aftermarket
2. replace with Honda OEM
3. leave them alone

What have others who track regularly done and why?

Car Analogy

Aftermarket ss braided brake hoses over two advantages over stock lines on most cars:

1. ss braiding offers abrashion resistance and better resistance to track debris cutting them.

2. The teflon hose typically used inside these lines offers much improved brake feel due to less expansion under pressure.

The stock lines on our cars already have teflon hoses, so you won't get a significant improvement in pedal feel. But the abrashion and debris resistance may be worth it for track use.

If it were me, and if it were a street car, I'd keep the used lines since they are good. But for track, since.its already apart, I'd either get new oem or ss.

freq

You can get a set of 4 SS brake lines for around $100.

I think the safest path here is obvious.

DanielB

Yes, I probably should have said I was leaning towards replacing them - the only question is with OEM or aftermarket. For safety items I usually prefer OEM - but in this case I haven't seen any issues of aftermarket brake hose failures. I think I'll go with a set of StopTechs.

B serious

Idk about Stoptechs.

But Russel lines are DOT approved and have a teflon OUTER jacket as well.

The outer jacket is important.

alSpeed2k

Dang, it looks like the Russell lines aren't available for an AP2V2. They show the same part number for MY 2000-2006 but nothing for the 2007 onwards. I think the 2006 reference is likely incorrect as I've read that the '06+ Ap2v2s use a different fitting.

Has anyone tried the Ballade ones before?

DanielB

The StopTechs are also DOT approved. I saw in another thread that they also have an outer teflon jacket so figured they and the Russells are more or less equivalent.

If at some point I decide to upgrade to a BBK up front, it will be a StopTech so figured I'd go with them for the rear lines.

Chuck S

The 2006+ VSA brake hoses are revision -010. Earlier versions are -000. Differences are not noted but the part number changes in 2006 in the USDM cars.

A full set of OEM brake hoses is roughly $120. Since the hoses will be off I'd replace with new.

-- Chuck

Langelo DeMysterioso

Goodridge SS lines - $118.00
conforming to all requirements of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard Number 106, Goodridge G-Stop High Performance Brakelines are U.S. Department of Transportation certified and T.U.V. approved

alSpeed2k

According to this thread, the Goodridge lines aren't perfect.