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I call Bulls@#$
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Its not bullsh!t. I have done this before in lab, just not to this extent. Not only is this possible, but it is in use today. Definetely not bullsh!t.
BTW, heavy water (radiated water)....if you harness the energy of it (like this guy did), can run a car for about 40-60 years on one gallon, and again, this is NOT bullsh!t.
BTW, heavy water (radiated water)....if you harness the energy of it (like this guy did), can run a car for about 40-60 years on one gallon, and again, this is NOT bullsh!t.
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With the computer glitches today, there are multiple duplicate posts floating around, and I saw the other one on this topic first.
It's just simple chemistry, folks -- and not new, miraculous or anything special. (I don't know what in the world that comment about "radiated water" is about though -- that's way out there indeed.) HPH
It's just simple chemistry, folks -- and not new, miraculous or anything special. (I don't know what in the world that comment about "radiated water" is about though -- that's way out there indeed.) HPH
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Originally Posted by DrCloud,Jun 1 2006, 07:49 PM
With the computer glitches today, there are multiple duplicate posts floating around, and I saw the other one on this topic first.
It's just simple chemistry, folks -- and not new, miraculous or anything special. (I don't know what in the world that comment about "radiated water" is about though -- that's way out there indeed.) HPH
It's just simple chemistry, folks -- and not new, miraculous or anything special. (I don't know what in the world that comment about "radiated water" is about though -- that's way out there indeed.) HPH
Heavy Water: Water containing a significantly greater proportion of heavy hydrogen (deuterium) atoms to ordinary hydrogen atoms than is found in ordinary (light) water. Heavy water is used as a moderator in some reactors because it slows neutrons effectively and also has a low cross-section for absorption of neutrons.
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move on, there's nothing to see here... move on...
listen closely to the interview. in fact, he even says in the interview @ :50 seconds that "we take water and electricity and break it down through our very unique electrolysis process". he's not patenting the actual "fuel", he's patenting the process he uses to make it... his device.
guys and gals, there's nothing special here... this technology is hundreds of years old. what you ARE seeing is gullible journalists being made to look like fools.
all it is - regular water and electrolysis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water
and he may drive 100 miles on a gallon of water, but he doesn't mention his electricity source for the electrolysis... what? batteries? why not just connect them to electric motors and have an electric car.
this guy may have a cool device, but he's scamming everyone if he thinks he's got something that's going to change the future of fuels.
in order to split the H20 up, he's got to add electricty. but as just about everyone knows, you can't put 100% in and get 100% out.... you loose energy to efficiency losses. so, he's using electricty to put more energy in than he can get out... why bother? if he's not burning the fuel in his car, he's burning the fuel (and MORE of it) at the electricity plant where he charged his batteries.... or the electricity he's using to power his torch... and he's using MORE energy than he's getting out. this intermediate step only wastes, it doesn't conserve.
sigh...
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i'm not sure what Dave's talking about.... heavy water is not "radiated water". it's just Deuterium oxide. the nucleus of hydrogen in heavy water has a neutron along with the proton (vs the normal 1 proton 1 electron). it isn't left over from a radioactive event, it's actually water deliberately MADE for use in order to slow down and control nuclear reactions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water
it has no fuel properties in and of itself... in order to use it for generating power, you'd need a nuclear fuel source (think uranium or plutonium).
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This is a repost, although the other one may have been on S2000 talk or somewhere else, I don't remember.
The local NBC affiliate here in the Palm Beach (FL) market did a story on these guys, too, so it's not just a Fox stupidity story.
Nothing I've seen (either on these TV stories on on the web site) suggests anything other than electrolysis of water, which produces hydrogen and oxygen, which can then be ignited to get a flame and water. The energy in the flame, or whatever other thing you do with the combustion, is about equal to that involved in electolyzing the water (not counting the inefficiency of the electrolysis gadget, of course).
Calling it "aquagen" or whatever else you make up doesn't change the fundamental chemistry of the process. So it's BS in the sense that it's marketing hype. But they're probably bottling a combustable gas (hydrogen) and maybe bottling a hydrogen-oxygen mixture, who knows. If it's the latter, though, it's pretty stupid, as that's a very dangerous thing to be fooling with. HPH
The local NBC affiliate here in the Palm Beach (FL) market did a story on these guys, too, so it's not just a Fox stupidity story.
Nothing I've seen (either on these TV stories on on the web site) suggests anything other than electrolysis of water, which produces hydrogen and oxygen, which can then be ignited to get a flame and water. The energy in the flame, or whatever other thing you do with the combustion, is about equal to that involved in electolyzing the water (not counting the inefficiency of the electrolysis gadget, of course).
Calling it "aquagen" or whatever else you make up doesn't change the fundamental chemistry of the process. So it's BS in the sense that it's marketing hype. But they're probably bottling a combustable gas (hydrogen) and maybe bottling a hydrogen-oxygen mixture, who knows. If it's the latter, though, it's pretty stupid, as that's a very dangerous thing to be fooling with. HPH
move on, there's nothing to see here... move on...
listen closely to the interview. in fact, he even says in the interview @ :50 seconds that "we take water and electricity and break it down through our very unique electrolysis process". he's not patenting the actual "fuel", he's patenting the process he uses to make it... his device.
guys and gals, there's nothing special here... this technology is hundreds of years old. what you ARE seeing is gullible journalists being made to look like fools.
all it is - regular water and electrolysis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water
and he may drive 100 miles on a gallon of water, but he doesn't mention his electricity source for the electrolysis... what? batteries? why not just connect them to electric motors and have an electric car.
this guy may have a cool device, but he's scamming everyone if he thinks he's got something that's going to change the future of fuels.
in order to split the H20 up, he's got to add electricty. but as just about everyone knows, you can't put 100% in and get 100% out.... you loose energy to efficiency losses. so, he's using electricty to put more energy in than he can get out... why bother? if he's not burning the fuel in his car, he's burning the fuel (and MORE of it) at the electricity plant where he charged his batteries.... or the electricity he's using to power his torch... and he's using MORE energy than he's getting out. this intermediate step only wastes, it doesn't conserve.
sigh...
aside:
i'm not sure what Dave's talking about.... heavy water is not "radiated water". it's just Deuterium oxide. the nucleus of hydrogen in heavy water has a neutron along with the proton (vs the normal 1 proton 1 electron). it isn't left over from a radioactive event, it's actually water deliberately MADE for use in order to slow down and control nuclear reactions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water
it has no fuel properties in and of itself... in order to use it for generating power, you'd need a nuclear fuel source (think uranium or plutonium).
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Thats actually what I meant to say....heavy water, but figured people will easier understand....
Anyway, my point was, that if someone figured out how to harness the energy stored in heavy water, it could generate a TON of energy.
Anyway, my point was, that if someone figured out how to harness the energy stored in heavy water, it could generate a TON of energy.